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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0001130 | Scribus | General | public | 2004-09-20 02:29 | 2016-03-06 10:09 |
| Reporter | blazej | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | duplicate | ||
| OS | Mandrake | OS Version | 9.2 | ||
| Product Version | 1.2.5cvs | ||||
| Summary | 0001130: Problems with hyphenation | ||||
| Description | There are a few issues related to this feature - I'm putting them all together here. 1. When I click Extras | Hyphenate, it is unclear what this command applies to: current frame only, all linked frames, ... (see 0013743) 3. If I deselect "Fully Automatic" in Hyphenator Settings and then select Extras | Hyphenate, Scribus asks me about EVERY SINGLE word in my text. (See 0013744) - Why doesn't it only ask about words that are at line boundary? - It asks many times about the same word. It should learn! The bottom line is that the hyphenator is not very intuitive and behaves strangely at times. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Patch | No | ||||
| related to | 0001108 | assigned | avox | Let user specify hyphenation exceptions |
| related to | 0004676 | acknowledged | feature to mark words as "do not hyphenate" | |
| related to | 0001475 | acknowledged | hyphenation: use soft hyphen character (U+00AD) instead signed by ITEXT CSTYLE 8th bit attribute | |
| related to | 0013743 | new | Extras > Hyphenate: unclear what this command applies to: current frame only, all linked frames ? | |
| related to | 0013744 | new | Hyphenation: deselect "Fully Automatic" and then select Extras > Hyphenate issues | |
| child of | 0003828 | acknowledged | Metabug: Hyphenation |
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I most agree with Blazej as his suggestions add up to what I reported on bug 0000971 and bug 0001108, both related to Hyphenation (interface, problem, new feature). I think hyphenation needs attention as we are getting more and more people to use Scribus. For *long* text documents: it's a task we all want to let the computer do for us! Blazej, please review (if not done already!) the two bugs cited above and let us know what you think, if you think the ideas there could help solve the issues you're facing. The typographic quality of Scribus will be raised as much! |
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Blazej wrote in 0001129 : "However, there is a another serious problem now: I have multiple linked text frames. After applying the hyphenation to the first one, all of them get hyphenated - cool! PROBLEM: the dashes are visible ONLY in the first frame! Subsequent frames are hyphenated but the dashes are not visible!!!! If someone figures this out, can they tell me how I can fix this on my machine - I need this hyphenator guy to work!" mhanski: I've been observing the same behaviour, the dashes become visible after a doubleclick in the second frame. However, the print preview looks fine then, it seems to be a display problem. Please hyphenate the attached test file to see the problem. This issue has been made to a separate bug: 0001136 edited on: 04-09-22 07:34 |
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2004-09-21 20:46
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1. When I click Extras | Hyphenate, it is unclear what this command applies to: current frame only, all linked frames Current Frames 2. Hyphenating text doesn't raise the "Modified" flag on the document. Fixed in 1.2.2 3. If I deselect "Fully Automatic" in Hyphenator Settings and then select Extras | Hyphenate, Scribus asks me about EVERY SINGLE word in my text. Confirmed. - Why doesn't it only ask about words that are at line boundary? Confirmed. - It asks many times about the same word. It should learn! 4. When I select a frame and then select Extras | Hyphenate, the frame sometimes goes blank after that. I have to scroll to a different page and back to see the text. And the text in that frame is not always hyphenated. This only happens if the frame is part of a linked frames chain. This seems to be OK with 1.2.2cvs. |
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Thanks for the test case also. Very helpful. |
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bumping to 1.2.5, as we cannot apply a fix without breaking strings. |
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It would be very useful to refuse an hyphenation. When choosing automatic hyphenation, if you see a word that shouldn't be cut (eg country or cities names), you should say: I don't want that hyphenation (without having to use the manual editor). Or just delete the hyphen. Related: when you choose a manual optionnal hyphen, you should be able to delete it. At this moment, you have to delete a character and the retype it. |
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Actually, what we need is a way of telling Scribus not to hyphenate a specific word in a specific situation. (0004676) QXP does that when you type the smart hyphen in front of a word. Otherwise, you can type a smart hyphen elsewhere in the word. For further fine tuning, the "hyphenation exception" dialog is there to help. |
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Split off Issue 1. and created 0013743 Issue 3. and created 0013744 |
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Cleaned up ticket and split up issues in to other ticket. Resolving this in favor of those split tickets |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2004-09-20 02:29 | blazej | New Issue | |
| 2004-09-20 11:56 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0002439 | |
| 2004-09-21 20:45 | mhanski | Note Added: 0002452 | |
| 2004-09-21 20:46 | mhanski | File Added: hyph_test.sla | |
| 2004-09-22 05:34 | mhanski | Note Edited: 0002452 | |
| 2005-05-08 19:05 |
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Note Added: 0004554 | |
| 2005-05-08 19:07 |
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Note Added: 0004555 | |
| 2005-05-08 19:07 |
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Status | new => confirmed |
| 2005-05-08 19:07 |
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Product Version | 1.2 => 1.2.2cvs |
| 2005-07-06 11:16 |
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Product Version | 1.2.2cvs => 1.2.3cvs |
| 2005-07-23 22:15 | louisdesjardins | Note Edited: 0002439 | |
| 2005-09-12 07:01 |
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Product Version | 1.2.3cvs => 1.2.4cvs |
| 2005-12-26 19:32 |
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Note Added: 0007817 | |
| 2005-12-26 19:32 |
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Product Version | 1.2.4cvs => 1.2.5cvs |
| 2006-01-31 13:16 |
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Relationship added | related to 0001475 |
| 2006-02-15 13:12 | Le_Tigre | Note Added: 0008764 | |
| 2006-02-19 23:24 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0008816 | |
| 2006-05-16 21:57 | christoph_s | Relationship added | child of 0003828 |
| 2016-02-15 14:31 | Kunda | Note Edited: 0004554 | |
| 2016-02-15 14:32 | Kunda | Patch | => No |
| 2016-02-15 14:32 | Kunda | Description Updated | |
| 2016-02-15 14:33 | Kunda | Relationship added | related to 0001108 |
| 2016-02-15 14:37 | Kunda | Note Edited: 0008816 | |
| 2016-02-15 14:37 | Kunda | Relationship added | related to 0004676 |
| 2016-02-15 14:55 | Kunda | Relationship added | related to 0013743 |
| 2016-02-15 14:55 | Kunda | Note Edited: 0002452 | |
| 2016-02-15 14:56 | Kunda | Note Edited: 0002452 | |
| 2016-02-15 14:56 | Kunda | Description Updated | |
| 2016-02-15 14:58 | Kunda | Note Added: 0038757 | |
| 2016-02-15 15:02 | Kunda | Relationship added | related to 0013744 |
| 2016-02-15 15:03 | Kunda | Description Updated | |
| 2016-02-15 15:03 | Kunda | Note Edited: 0038757 | |
| 2016-02-15 15:05 | Kunda | Note Added: 0038758 | |
| 2016-02-15 15:05 | Kunda | Status | confirmed => resolved |
| 2016-02-15 15:05 | Kunda | Resolution | open => duplicate |
| 2016-02-15 15:05 | Kunda | Assigned To | => Kunda |
| 2016-02-15 15:05 | Kunda | Assigned To | Kunda => |
| 2016-03-06 10:09 | cbradney | Status | resolved => closed |
