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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0009385ScribusPDFpublic2014-10-15 17:07
ReporterJim Ford Assigned Tojghali  
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
Status closedResolutionfixed 
PlatformWindowsOSXPOS VersionService Pack 3
Product Version1.3.8 
Fixed in Version1.4.0svn 
Summary0009385: Elements outside bleed zone visible after pdf export
DescriptionIn a 2 page spread of an image, crop and bleed marks are shown on the inside of the pages, rather than just on the top, bottom and outside, even though inside bleed is set to zero. In addition, and more seriously, there is a region of overlap of the image on the inside. If bleeds and crop are not selected on pdf output, the pages are correctly displayed.
Steps To Reproduce1) Create left and right hand pages with an image that extends full width, with 5mm on outside, top and bottom edges, to allow for bleed.

2) In Document Setup: set top, bottom and outside bleed to (say) 5mm, and inside bleed to zero.

3)Export to pdf and in Pre-Press either use document bleeds or set as above - it makes no difference, and select Crop and Bleed Marks.
Additional InformationThis could be a show stopper if a commercial printer must have crop and bleed marks - that's why I've marked the problem as 'major' with priority 'high'!
Tagsbleed marks, crop marks, PDF
Patch

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plinnell

2011-01-02 22:26

viewer   ~0025252

To be tested before releasing 1.4

plinnell

2011-01-03 10:57

viewer   ~0025258

Franz is this fixable without a major rewrite ?

codester

2011-04-08 10:53

reporter   ~0026028

I think this is the same problem as in 0008589.
I myself have observed this bug and it's pretty annoying. I hope my printer people won't mind...

Can we expect to have this resolved in 1.4 final?

tik753159

2011-04-08 14:33

reporter   ~0026030

Last edited: 2011-04-08 15:11

This is a problem for my colleagues at offset, and slows down production, requiring editable pdfs so they can manually added printer markings at imposition.

Same problem as previous report which has scribus and ID pdfs attached as examples (which I cant find at time of writing)

I believe it to be a cross platform limitation (reproducible in linux variations too)

codester

2011-04-09 08:15

reporter  

bug.pdf (2,217,414 bytes)

codester

2011-04-09 08:18

reporter   ~0026036

I've just uploaded a file that demonstrates this bug very well.

In the meantime I've tried to remove the overlap with pdfedit. This does only work if you have one image on the right page but not for an image spread over two pages.
I also think to have found out that the overlap isn't just a small strip of the image but the *whole* image again!

jghali

2011-04-10 15:28

administrator   ~0026055

The page content is now clipped to bleed area. The fact that crop and bleed marks are shown on the inside of the pages, even in the case of a 2 page spread is in no way a bug, as such marks are not useful if not displayed on all 4 side of a page. Moreover, Quark XPress and Adobe do not behave differently in such case.

tik753159

2011-04-11 07:12

reporter   ~0026060

I disagree, Indesign (at least CS2) and Quark (upto 7) do not show bleed / crop on inside margin of facing page documents.

Furthermore, facing page spreads (photos for example) are not split but carried over.

Perhaps the spread issue could be resolved using layers? It does appear serious enough to warrant investigation at least.

The crop/bleed marking issue is perhaps one of workflow preferences, but they ought to be brought into consideration for professional working environments. Why not offer the option?

any chance of reopening this one??

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-09-29 19:16 Jim Ford New Issue
2010-09-29 22:00 christoph_s Status new => confirmed
2011-01-02 22:26 plinnell Assigned To => plinnell
2011-01-02 22:26 plinnell Status confirmed => assigned
2011-01-02 22:26 plinnell Note Added: 0025252
2011-01-03 10:57 plinnell Note Added: 0025258
2011-01-03 10:57 plinnell Assigned To plinnell => fschmid
2011-04-08 10:53 codester Note Added: 0026028
2011-04-08 14:33 tik753159 Note Added: 0026030
2011-04-08 15:11 tik753159 Note Edited: 0026030
2011-04-09 08:15 codester File Added: bug.pdf
2011-04-09 08:18 codester Note Added: 0026036
2011-04-10 15:20 jghali Summary Bleed and crop marks incorrect in exported PDF => Elements outside bleed zone visible after pdf export
2011-04-10 15:28 jghali Note Added: 0026055
2011-04-10 15:28 jghali Status assigned => resolved
2011-04-10 15:28 jghali Fixed in Version => 1.4.0svn
2011-04-10 15:28 jghali Resolution open => fixed
2011-04-10 15:28 jghali Assigned To fschmid => jghali
2011-04-10 15:48 jghali Priority high => normal
2011-04-11 07:12 tik753159 Note Added: 0026060
2011-04-11 07:25 tik753159 Tag Attached: pdf
2011-04-11 07:25 tik753159 Tag Attached: crop marks
2011-04-11 07:26 tik753159 Tag Attached: bleed marks
2011-04-11 07:26 tik753159 Tag Attached: printers marks
2011-04-11 07:26 tik753159 Tag Attached: image
2011-04-12 21:09 cbradney Status resolved => closed
2014-10-11 18:40 Kunda Tag Detached: image
2014-10-15 17:07 Kunda Tag Detached: printers marks