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0001168ScribusStory Editor / Text Framespublic2016-01-23 13:18
Reporterpacketbell Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityalways
Status acknowledgedResolutionopen 
Product Version1.3 
Summary0001168: Text Frame Styles
DescriptionA style definition for text frames dealing with text-flow, continuation messages and automatic dividers when surrounded by other text frames.
Additional InformationExample: story starts on front page, continues on page 5 with a linked text frame. This example would print a continuation message at the bottom of the text frame on page 1:

See '[frame-name]' on page [page]

Automatic dividers are used to visually seperate stories (non-linked text frames) on the same page.
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related to 0001173 acknowledged Magnetic Captions/Smart Captions 
related to 0006745 acknowledged Wish - enable to copy object properties and paste to other object 

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packetbell

2004-10-01 23:32

reporter   ~0002607

Last edited: 2004-10-01 23:37

Frame Style Definitions

(o) Text Frame ( ) Picture Frame*

[ ] Autosize
[ ] Autoshape
[ ] Rotate contents ___ Degrees
[ ] Distance from:
. . . . . . . . [ ] Top ___ points
. . . . . . . . [ ] Bottom ___ points
. . . . . . . . [ ] Left ___ points
. . . . . . . . [ ] Right ___ points
[ ] Automatic Dividers
[ ] Continuation text: See____ [Name of linked frame|^] on____ [page|^]


[ ] = Checkbox
( ) = Radio
[Option|^] = Dropdown menu

Autosize: resizes frame when text is added/removed
Autoshape: resizes frame horizontally between nearest guides/margins

* Obviously, some options will be different for a picture frame.

edited on: 04-10-02 01:37

packetbell

2004-10-01 23:33

reporter   ~0002608

Ignore the . . . . . . dots. Imagine spaces instead :)
Mantis likes to eat tabs and spaces.

louisdesjardins

2004-10-07 01:57

developer   ~0002646

As a general statement, I like stylesheets.
Scribus is ahead of some well-known DTP apps with the Line Style.
I think it's a good direction.

So, I like your idea of the Frame Style.
Only, I do have a question about the *dividers*. Can you give a better example for using this?
Also, what is behind the See [frame-name] on page [page]? Is this something you want actually printed on the page? Or just an indication that would be in the Properties palette? Sorry if I didn't get it! Please give more details or real-life examples.

packetbell

2004-10-07 21:49

reporter   ~0002657

>>> Only, I do have a question about the *dividers*. Can you give a better example for using this?
Horizontal or vertical dividers (lines) between different stories. Like gutterlines, but only to visually seperate different content. Used often in newspapers and magazines.

>>> Also, what is behind the See '[frame-name]' on page [page-number]?
For example: a story that starts on page 1, and continues on page 5. It will inherit the name of the frame [frame-name] it is linked to, and the page number of the page [page-number] on which that text frame appears:

See 'Elections' on page 5.

Very handy for linked text frames that continue on different pages.

louisdesjardins

2004-10-08 12:40

developer   ~0002662

Last edited: 2005-09-19 19:30

OK. Understand.

Then we'd need options as to where and what distance from text frame the divider would be, as well as line width, color, etc. (line style) or a *Divider style*. I find *automatic* to be a bit of an issue if no options are left to users for customization!!! ;-) We can relate the Divider feature to my feature request for automated gutterline(s) (thank you for the nice word!). Have a look at bug 0001150. Of course, your idea goes farther.

For *Continuation text* we'd also need the full set of options: Paragraph Styles + Position of text frame.

Do you think all those *styled* elements should be at one point totally customizable afterwards? I mean, these elements would behave like a template: if you don't modify them manually, it will always be possible to affect them through the *Divider dialog* (for instance). On the other hand, if you manually modify a divider, then the link with this dialog is broken and, from then on, the object is treated like any other *free* object on the page?

packetbell

2004-10-08 20:04

reporter   ~0002668

>>> I find *automatic* [divider lines] to be a bit of an issue if no options are left to users for customization!

I agree. The functionality part hasn't really fleshed out yet. It ought to have the capability to at least assign a Line-Style to it, so you can use the line style properties for further enhancements:

[ ] Automatic Dividers [Line-Style ------------- |^]

This represents a drop-down menu with the currently defined line-styles, and a preview of that line style.

ringerc

2005-07-14 02:17

reporter   ~0005576

This would make sense, though I'm not sure when it'd be practical to do.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2004-09-30 17:43 packetbell New Issue
2004-10-01 23:32 packetbell Note Added: 0002607
2004-10-01 23:33 packetbell Note Added: 0002608
2004-10-01 23:37 packetbell Note Edited: 0002607
2004-10-07 01:57 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0002646
2004-10-07 21:49 packetbell Note Added: 0002657
2004-10-08 08:56 plinnell Category Documentation => Story Editor / Text Frames
2004-10-08 12:40 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0002662
2004-10-08 20:04 packetbell Note Added: 0002668
2004-10-20 20:57 cbradney Product Version => 1.3
2005-07-14 02:16 ringerc Relationship added related to 0001173
2005-07-14 02:17 ringerc Note Added: 0005576
2005-07-14 02:17 ringerc Status new => acknowledged
2005-09-19 19:30 louisdesjardins Note Edited: 0002662
2008-02-23 10:25 louisdesjardins Relationship added related to 0006745
2015-09-17 20:08 Kunda Category Story Editor / Text Frames => Story Ed/Txt Frames
2015-09-17 20:12 Kunda Category Story Ed/Txt Frames => Story Editor / Text Frames
2016-01-23 13:18 Kunda Tag Attached: dropcap