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0012455ScribusPlug-inspublic2018-04-30 13:09
ReporterJLuc Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status feedbackResolutionreopened 
Product Version1.5.0svn 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0012455: [Barcode] Default EAN13 number
DescriptionWhen creating a EAN13 barcode, a default EAN appears without notice : 9781860742712.

Its troubling because there is no way to guess where it comes from. Did i allready paste my EAN ? Do I have to and overwrite this one ?

Beside this book is not related to scribus (http://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/isbn/9781860742712) so its a bit strange to label it here.
Tags#easyhack
PatchNo

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related to 0012687 closedcbradney Inserting a barcode does not work when build against Qt5.3.1 & Qt5.4 

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Kunda

2014-06-30 16:30

manager   ~0032376

confirmed on 10.8.5 r19300
it's confusing

cbradney

2014-06-30 17:00

administrator   ~0032379

Check in barcodegenerator.cpp,..

    map["EAN-13"] = BarcodeType("ean13", "9781860742712", tr("12 or 13 digits"),
                                "[0-9]{12,13}");

No idea why this was chosen. Please suggest new defaults.

JLuc

2014-06-30 17:24

developer   ~0032380

When there is a default value because some requirement, there could be a warning (red text) saying "default value - type yours", that would disappear once value is edited MrB

At least you could choose Scribus book EAN as default value...

Kunda

2014-07-03 03:23

manager   ~0032416

Reminder sent to: cbradney

Does this stay here or move to: (1.5.1svn or 1.6 milestone)?

JLuc

2014-07-03 14:09

developer   ~0032430

following recent commit, Scribus book EAN is now the default value.

It is kindof a funny easteregg and more meaningfull, but the usability issue is still here.

Kunda

2014-07-03 14:14

manager   ~0032431

bump to 1.5.1

Kunda

2015-08-13 03:35

manager   ~0036004

Just bumping this since barcode functionality was updated recently

Kunda

2015-10-04 23:21

manager   ~0036517

TerryBurton, any suggestions ?

Kunda

2015-10-04 23:23

manager   ~0036518

Last edited: 2015-10-04 23:24

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Actually, this bug is not an issue anymore.
The default EAN-13 that comes up is a Lana Del Ray poster: https://www.barcodelookup.com/2112345678900
and a Heavy metal band http://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/isbn/2112345678900

Kunda

2015-10-04 23:25

manager   ~0036519

Marking resolved for now.

terryburton

2015-10-05 06:48

reporter   ~0036522

The current defaults for the supply chain barcodes (EANs, UPCs, ISBN, etc.) are chosen from number ranges allocated for internal use or straight from examples given in the specifications. As such they do not clash with any number that might be in legitimate open use.

Perhaps we could amend the plugin to display disclaimers for supply chain symbols in the same way that my online generator does?

http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/generator/

Or something less formal sounding maybe? You might even grey out the OK button until the default is replaced with something else.

That said, even though my online barcode generator displays disclaimers in legalese and friendly text both before and after generating an example image, then furthermore prevents users from actually downloading such an image (even by right-clicking -> Save Image As, etc.) there are still users who are determined to ignore all these measures and use the examples anyway - presumably by cropping a screenshot - as you have found in the quoted links.

Kunda

2015-10-07 20:53

manager   ~0036540

"That said, even though my online barcode generator displays disclaimers in legalese and friendly text both before and after generating an example image, then furthermore prevents users from actually downloading such an image (even by right-clicking -> Save Image As, etc.) there are still users who are determined to ignore all these measures and use the examples anyway - presumably by cropping a screenshot - as you have found in the quoted links."


So do we want to amend the plugin to display disclaimers for supply chain symbols?

Kunda

2015-11-10 17:36

manager   ~0037394

bump

terryburton

2015-11-10 23:40

reporter   ~0037409

This decision is one for the Team and if disclaimers are deemed necessary then implementation is mostly GUI design work - not something I'm likely to do myself. Perhaps one of the Oman contributors or a supporter such as yourself may be interested in providing mockups to help prompt discussion on the best way forward.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2014-06-30 13:59 JLuc New Issue
2014-06-30 16:30 Kunda Note Added: 0032376
2014-06-30 17:00 cbradney Note Added: 0032379
2014-06-30 17:24 JLuc Note Added: 0032380
2014-06-30 17:31 Kunda Fixed in Version => 1.5.1svn
2014-06-30 17:32 cbradney Fixed in Version 1.5.1svn =>
2014-06-30 17:32 cbradney Target Version => 1.5.0
2014-07-03 03:23 Kunda Note Added: 0032416
2014-07-03 14:09 JLuc Note Added: 0032430
2014-07-03 14:14 Kunda Note Added: 0032431
2014-07-03 14:15 Kunda Target Version 1.5.0 => 1.5.1
2014-07-14 15:12 FirasH Status new => acknowledged
2014-09-13 19:57 Kunda Relationship added related to 0012687
2014-10-09 00:49 Kunda Tag Attached: easyhack
2014-10-15 17:07 Kunda Tag Renamed easyhack => #easyhack
2015-07-16 19:26 Kunda Patch => No
2015-07-16 19:26 Kunda Category Graphics / Image Frames => Plug-ins
2015-07-16 19:26 Kunda Summary Default EAN13 number => [Barcode] Default EAN13 number
2015-08-13 03:35 Kunda Note Added: 0036004
2015-10-04 23:21 Kunda Note Added: 0036517
2015-10-04 23:23 Kunda Note Added: 0036518
2015-10-04 23:24 Kunda Note Edited: 0036518 View Revisions
2015-10-04 23:25 Kunda Note Added: 0036519
2015-10-04 23:25 Kunda Status acknowledged => resolved
2015-10-05 06:48 terryburton Note Added: 0036522
2015-10-07 20:53 Kunda Note Added: 0036540
2015-10-07 20:54 Kunda Status resolved => feedback
2015-10-07 20:54 Kunda Resolution open => reopened
2015-11-10 17:36 Kunda Note Added: 0037394
2015-11-10 23:40 terryburton Note Added: 0037409
2016-01-15 19:47 Kunda Target Version 1.5.1 => 1.5.2
2016-01-23 17:14 cbradney Target Version 1.5.2 => 1.5.3
2016-01-23 17:15 cbradney Target Version 1.5.3 => 1.5.4.svn
2018-04-30 13:09 jghali Target Version 1.5.4.svn =>