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0016478ScribusUser Interfacepublic2021-02-17 19:322021-04-01 20:38
Reporteruser6573Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version1.5.7.svn 
Summary0016478: in style-editor "orphan" (Schusterjunge) is above the "widow" (Hurenkind) wich is the opposite how it is in typographic
Descriptionwidow should be above orphan, so it is more intuitiv. Maybe you (@bubu) can do this? As far as I know, you are doing the interface things.
Tagsbubu, orphan, widow
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user6573

2021-02-17 19:34

 

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bubu

2021-02-17 20:55

reporter   ~0048853

I'm not a real developer :-).
It is not hard to change the order of these settings. But please consider before:
- These settings are parallel on Style Manager and Text Properties dock panel > Orphans and Widows
- The German translation does not follow English exactly ("Don't separate first X lines" / "Don't separate last Y lines"), although its meaning is of course the same.

I think the current solution with original English labels is good.

If we decide to change the order of these controls, we should be change the original English labels to:
- Orphan control: X lines
- Window control: Y lines

Let’s see what the core developers think.
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user6573

2021-02-18 21:15

  ~0048861

thanks for the answer.

you said
"If we decide to change the order of these controls, we should be change the original English labels to:
- Orphan control: X lines
- Window control: Y lines"

that´s fine for me, but I don´t use the english labels, so...
But nevertheless I would change them vice versa like:

- Widow control: Y lines
- Orphan control: X lines

so that the widow control is above the orphan controll. Because widows are the lines at the top of a site and orphans at the bottom. So in my opinion it would be a little more intuitive

bubu

2021-03-21 16:42

reporter   ~0049044

@hohesC I just notify you that I proposed a patch to change order of widow and orphan controls (Style Manager) in 0016507 but it is rejected.

user6573

2021-04-01 20:38

  ~0049071

thanks a lot for you work! it´s a pity, but maybe they have reasons wich I don´t get

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2021-02-17 19:32 user6573 New Issue
2021-02-17 19:32 user6573 Tag Attached: widow
2021-02-17 19:32 user6573 Tag Attached: orphan
2021-02-17 19:33 user6573 Tag Attached: bubu
2021-02-17 19:34 user6573 File Added: image.png
2021-02-17 20:55 bubu File Added: widows-orphans.png
2021-02-17 20:55 bubu Note Added: 0048853
2021-02-18 21:15 user6573 Note Added: 0048861
2021-03-21 16:42 bubu Note Added: 0049044
2021-04-01 20:38 user6573 Note Added: 0049071