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|0016651||Scribus||User Interface||public||2021-09-27 09:34||2023-09-23 14:26|
|Summary||0016651: Focus should go back to Edited Text Frame after "Insert glyph" use|
|Description||[EDIT after discussion and several years of hitting that issue :] |
After using Insert Glyph palette, one can insert a new glyph again using that same palette, but one has to first select the text frame before being able to use the keyboard to continue add some text or edit the currently edited text frame.
+ ESC enables to focus back to currently edited text frame, BUT kills the Insert Glyph palette.
Request is : after inserting a glyph, make it easy to both go on with text editing and glyph inserting .
- either ESC shouldnt close the Insert Glyph palette (just focus back to textframe and enable edit)
- OR (even better in my view) : inserting a glyph should do it and immediately focus back to the textframe so as to enable further keyboard edit
[Old report :]
The Insert glyph window keeps closing inadvertently. I can't tell how to reproduce this précisely but it happens quite often, allways a short time after i've been using it to insert a glyph, when i'm looking at the text where the glyph has been inserted and half a stroke or 1 or 2 strokes after i've begun to edit the text further. It's quite frustrating because there are more glyphs to insert very soon ! [EDIT] Sometimes it happens when ESC is pressed
>> Sometimes it happens when ESC is pressed
This is expected: Esc is a standard shortcut for closing windows and dialogs.
So it could be that after inserting a glyph i look at the insert point and my mind focuses on the text... and it looks like i am in texte edit mode because the insert caret blinks ! But scribus keeps the focus on the Insert glyph window.
That's when sometimes I want to switch to another frame, i press ESC to ... and the Insert glyph window closes.
I'd prefer when Insert Glyph would be a stable toolbox - as are the "Inlined images" toolbox that provide a way to insert images = quite similar to "Insert glyph"-.
Or as some UI do : their windows/dialogs have a "Pin me" button, that prevent the window/dialog to automatically close : the user has to close the dialog explicitely.
I now understand the circumstances (not random !) and explained better in my previous comment.
The issue with scribus appears to be that
- Insert Glyph window captures scribus focus when a glyph is inserted. Hence ESC closes it.
- BUT the text frame window keeps looking as if it still was in text edit mode : the Insert carret blinks right next to the inserted glyph.
This is a contradiction with 2 solutions :
- 1) Either the text frame should not look as if in text edit mode once a glyph is inserted
- 2) OR insert Glyph window should not capture the focus when used. Or should give it back, to the text frame.
||for me 'insert glyph' is a special task while editing the text (something like inserting a glyph from the keypad). from this point of view the current behaviour is exactly what i would expect.|
@utnik : Typing on the physical keyboard doesnt looses focus : after typing on the keyboard, one does not have to first click on the text frame so it recovers focus before being able able to type a new keyboard key.
The current behaviour is : after using Insert Glyph, one can insert a new glyph again, but one has to first select the text frame before being able to use the keyboard to continue add some text or edit the text. That's makes a big difference. Imagine you'd have to click on the textframe before each new keyboard key hit !
AMOF, you are in favour of solution 2 "Insert Glyph window should not capture the focus when used. Or should give it back, to the text frame." (Of course this would not prevent to use once more the Insert Glyph feature, because Scribus state would be exactly the same as it was before first using the Insert Glyph feature.)
ESC behaviour in 1.5.8 is not only to go back to textframe edit, but also to kill the "Insert Glyph" palette.
User can define a keyboard shortcut to open it back-anew, and that's a great help.
But there is no predefined shortcut to open the palette back anew, and when one wants to insert a glyph once more time later in the edit, one has to reach mouse (here it is), reach Insert menu (there it is, the fourth one in the menu), reach "Glyph" menu option (here --but not the second "Glyph" entry ! be carefull to choose the first one--) first...
AMOF ESC should not kill the Insert Glyph palette : just go back to textframe edit.
||after using Insert Glyph, one can insert a new glyph again, but one has to first select the text frame before being able to use the keyboard to continue add some text or edit the text.|
|2021-09-27 09:34||JLuc||New Issue|
|2021-09-27 09:55||JLuc||Description Updated|
|2021-09-27 20:03||jghali||Note Added: 0049269|
|2021-09-27 23:01||JLuc||Note Added: 0049270|
|2021-09-30 09:10||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049270|
|2021-09-30 09:17||JLuc||Note Added: 0049271|
|2021-09-30 09:18||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049271|
|2021-09-30 18:02||utnik||Note Added: 0049272|
|2021-09-30 19:04||JLuc||Note Added: 0049273|
|2021-09-30 19:05||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049271|
|2021-10-02 14:15||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049273|
|2023-05-08 15:26||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049273|
|2023-05-08 15:59||JLuc||Note Added: 0050158|
|2023-05-08 16:05||JLuc||Summary||"Insert glyph" window closes randomly => Focus should go back to Edited Text Frame after "Insert glyph" use|
|2023-05-08 16:05||JLuc||Description Updated|
|2023-05-08 16:05||JLuc||Note Added: 0050159|
|2023-05-08 16:07||JLuc||Description Updated|
|2023-05-08 16:10||JLuc||Tag Attached: usability|
|2023-05-08 16:10||JLuc||Tag Attached: Glyphs|
|2023-09-23 14:25||JLuc||Note Edited: 0050158|
|2023-09-23 14:26||JLuc||Note Edited: 0050158|
|2023-09-23 14:26||JLuc||Note Edited: 0050158|