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0017616ScribusGuidespublic2025-09-09 19:56
Reporterqirat Assigned Tojghali  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status closedResolutionfixed 
PlatformLinuxOSFedoraOS Version42 Workstation
Product Version1.7.1.svn 
Fixed in Version1.7.1.svn 
Summary0017616: "Margins" drops to the bottom of the "Placement" hierarchy on next launch
DescriptionThe next time you launch the document, the margins drop to the very bottom of the stack (in the Doc setup >> Guides >> "Placement" tab)
The steps may make it clearer what I meant.

First, you may want to check the position of "margins" in Document setup >> Guides (it is the same as in Preferences >> Guides)
Steps To ReproduceIn short:

1. Create a new document
2. Save it
3. Close and relaunch
4. The margins have dropped to the bottom of the hierarchy


More detailed steps:

1. Create a new document
2. Cover any master page with solid white shape
3. Apply that master page to a regular page in the document
4. You may notice the margins shows on top of the solid white background (good so far)
5. Close the document and relaunch.
6. You do not see the margins, only the white BG, as they have dropped to the bottom of the guides visibility hierarchy
Additional InformationTheir position in the Preferences >> Guides is not affected though.

The solid white BG is just to make it visible without going to the settings, otherwise the same thing happens without using any solid colour BG.
Tagsguides
Attached Files
test.sla (16,691 bytes)   
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        <DocItemAttributes/>
        <Indexes/>
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                </Rules>
            </Set>
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                <PageNames Name="Left Page"/>
                <PageNames Name="Right Page"/>
            </Set>
            <Set Name="3-Fold" FirstPage="0" Rows="1" Columns="3">
                <PageNames Name="Left Page"/>
                <PageNames Name="Middle"/>
                <PageNames Name="Right Page"/>
            </Set>
            <Set Name="4-Fold" FirstPage="0" Rows="1" Columns="4">
                <PageNames Name="Left Page"/>
                <PageNames Name="Middle Left"/>
                <PageNames Name="Middle Right"/>
                <PageNames Name="Right Page"/>
            </Set>
        </PageSets>
        <Sections>
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        </Sections>
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    </Document>
</SCRIBUSUTF8NEW>
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Date Modified Username Field Change
2025-09-04 13:08 qirat New Issue
2025-09-04 13:08 qirat Tag Attached: guides
2025-09-04 13:08 qirat File Added: test.sla
2025-09-06 22:39 jghali Summary "Margins" drops to the bottom of the "Placement" hierarchy on next launch. => "Margins" drops to the bottom of the "Placement" hierarchy on next launch
2025-09-06 22:39 jghali Assigned To => jghali
2025-09-06 22:39 jghali Status new => resolved
2025-09-06 22:39 jghali Resolution open => fixed
2025-09-06 22:39 jghali Fixed in Version => 1.7.1.svn
2025-09-09 19:56 cbradney Status resolved => closed