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|ID||Project||Category||View Status||Date Submitted||Last Update|
|0008404||Scribus||User Interface||public||2009-09-03 15:19||2014-07-19 02:32|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version|
|Summary||0008404: screen/web > RGB // printer > CMYK|
|Description||please, rename "screen/web" to RGB and "printer" to CMYK: the current labels don't really make sense.|
||Renaming "printer" to CMYK do not make really sense either as checking the "use profiles" options will trigger use of RGB. Such renaming will only be possible in 1.5.0svn after a lot of internal work and quite some changes in color management options.|
||They were renamed a long time ago from RGB/CMYK btw|
maybe there should be no "use profile" checkbox but a choice between:
- use profiles
(i don't know if cmyk without color management makes much sense, though)
@cbradney: they may have been renamed at a time when a printer was either b/w or cmyk... today this is not true anymore...
imo, the wording of the options must not be what i suggests, but it surely has to be less equivocal than it is right now!
>> maybe there should be no "use profile" [...]
Having a specific item for "use profile" does not make sense. Currently the "use profiles" options mainly allows to tune pdf/x-3 output and consequently it does not make sense to have those options elsewhere than in "Printer" options. Using distinct cmyk/rgb/grayscale items would also put limits to what we can do when outputting pdf especially x-3. Remember pdf/x-3 explicitly allows to use both rgb cmykon a same page... Also will your convert a grayscale image to cmyk when the "cmyk" item would be selected? That's what we'll have to do if we adopt such categories. Practically that's just stupid however... Using output intent such as "Screen/Web" and "Printer" allows to produce a more optimal output than targeting a specific type of color space.
>> they may have been renamed at a time when a printer was either b/w or cmyk
No, when they were renamed rgb printer were already on the market and for quite a long time even. Rgb printers have existed since at least gdi first days on Windows, that means well before 1995 and consequently well before Scribus existed. True rgb output device have been used in professional photography and digital effects for quite a long time too.
>> but it surely has to be less equivocal than it is right now
The problem is in fact not in the "Screen/Web" and "Printer" options naming. The real problem is the confusion around the "use profiles" options and what they do.
>>Such renaming will only be possible in 1.5.0svn after a lot of internal work and quite some changes in color management options.
What this discussion tells us, though, that it needs a better documentation, both in the Help Browser and the next edition of the manual.
Jean, since you seem to be the only one who knows exactly what is doing what, could you send me list with explanations of all CM and output options that enable me to write a (hopefully) useful text?
Just want you to know:
I had trouble to find the CMYK PDF output option. I was close to write a letter until i found this bugreport. PLEASE rename it! I whould never figured it out that "printer" should be CMYK.... why did you change it anyway?
||Because "Printer" is not necessarily CMYK, enable the "use profiles" options and you will have RGB in your output files.|
||In the tooltip there is "Choose Printer when printing to a true 4 color CMYK printer." Can be closed?|
|2009-09-03 15:19||ale||New Issue|
|2009-09-03 18:56||jghali||Note Added: 0022458|
|2009-09-03 20:36||cbradney||Note Added: 0022459|
|2009-09-03 23:41||christoph_s||Priority||high => low|
|2009-09-04 20:20||ale||Note Added: 0022461|
|2009-09-05 01:01||jghali||Note Added: 0022462|
|2009-09-05 03:14||christoph_s||Note Added: 0022463|
|2009-09-05 03:14||christoph_s||Note Edited: 0022463|
|2009-10-05 06:51||GurgiONE||Note Added: 0022618|
|2009-10-05 06:58||jghali||Note Added: 0022619|
|2014-07-05 17:54||FirasH||Note Added: 0032495|
|2014-07-09 22:31||Kunda||Tag Attached: #tobeclosed|
|2014-07-19 02:32||FirasH||Status||new => closed|
|2014-07-19 02:32||FirasH||Resolution||open => won't fix|