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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0009365ScribusTypographypublic2010-09-21 19:202016-11-16 08:48
ReporterCzechAdam Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status confirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformWindowsOSWindows XPOS VersionXP SP3
Product Version1.3.8 
Summary0009365: The maximum ascent of the capital czech letters with punctuation (??ŽŠ?ÁÍÉ) behaves incorrectly
DescriptionThe position of the font when using czech capital letters (??ŽŠ?ÁÍÉ) with punctuation behaves incorrectly.

I am not expert in this, so I hope I am right.

Please see attached picture.
On the first row, there are two boxes containing font with First line offset ->maximum ascent.
On the second row, there are two boxes containing font with First line offset ->font ascent

Tooltip says: Set the height of the first line of the text frame to use the tallest height of the included characters

The question is whether the editor should take the punctuation into account.
In my oppinion it should not. My printer has the same oppinion:-).
Steps To Reproducecreate 4 text boxes:

1) enter "??ŽŠ?Å" - use properties->first-line offset->maximum ascent
2) enter "??ŽŠ?Å" - use properties->first-line offset->font ascent

3) enter "B" - use properties->first-line offset->maximum ascent
4) enter "B" - use properties->first-line offset->font ascent

when you compare 1) and 2), there is no difference
when you compare 3) and 4), there is visible difference
Tags#please_test, HOST-Oman, layout, scribusctl
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related to 0011613 newcbradney [PATCH] vertical position of line depending on text (same content, different layout) 

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CzechAdam

2010-09-21 19:20

reporter  

first_line_offset_problem.png (18,978 bytes)   
first_line_offset_problem.png (18,978 bytes)   

pierremarchand

2010-09-22 21:58

reporter   ~0024582

a) I see a very slight difference between 1 & 2
b) I haven't the font but it's highly possible that the accented character reaches the global font ascent, hence no or slight difference.

If the difference between options is unclear, it's another problem which should be adressed by means of tooltips or documentation.

Kunda

2014-08-01 21:00

updater   ~0033135

CzechAdam, can you reproduce this on the latest stable Scribus or development version ? Please respond, thanks.

JLuc

2014-09-04 10:51

developer   ~0033489

As Pierremarchad states it, It looks like the normal behaviour.
As of 1.5 version, the hints textes are very clear and understandable in the PP so as to describe each of these options.

I tested and discovered that there seems to be an issue, however, with "font ascent" (2nd option) since the vertical placement of the line depends of the text of the first line, when it should only rely on the global police characteristics.
Type "a" : there is a slight blanck space above.
Type "aA" : vertical positionning is the same, but there is no more blanck space above.
Type "aAÀ" or "aEÉ" : vertical positionning has changed, is slightly lower, so as to leave space for the ' on top of A or E.
This behaviour does not fit the hint text for "font ascent" : position of the line should leave space for the maximum ascent of the whole font, and thus it should not depend on the specific text.

Kunda

2014-09-04 23:21

updater   ~0033502

Jluc, shall we open a new issue then ?

JLuc

2014-10-09 07:07

developer   ~0033958

Probably, yes. I cant now.

Kunda

2016-04-01 12:16

updater   ~0039671

posted to Host-Oman in https://github.com/HOST-Oman/scribus/issues/77

Kunda

2016-11-16 03:45

updater   ~0042431

Khaled's take on the issue (https://github.com/HOST-Oman/scribus/issues/77#issuecomment-205810606)

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-09-21 19:20 CzechAdam New Issue
2010-09-21 19:20 CzechAdam File Added: first_line_offset_problem.png
2010-09-21 21:59 christoph_s Assigned To => pierremarchand
2010-09-21 21:59 christoph_s Status new => assigned
2010-09-22 21:58 pierremarchand Note Added: 0024582
2014-08-01 21:00 Kunda Note Added: 0033135
2014-09-02 22:34 Kunda Relationship added related to 0004454
2014-09-04 10:51 JLuc Note Added: 0033489
2014-09-04 23:21 Kunda Note Added: 0033502
2014-10-09 07:07 JLuc Note Added: 0033958
2016-04-01 12:16 Kunda Tag Attached: #please_test
2016-04-01 12:16 Kunda Tag Attached: HOST-Oman
2016-04-01 12:16 Kunda Tag Attached: scribusctl
2016-04-01 12:16 Kunda Note Added: 0039671
2016-05-31 20:05 jghali Relationship deleted related to 0004454
2016-10-13 20:00 JLuc Tag Attached: layout
2016-11-16 03:45 Kunda Note Added: 0042431
2016-11-16 03:45 Kunda Assigned To pierremarchand =>
2016-11-16 03:45 Kunda Status assigned => confirmed
2016-11-16 08:48 JLuc Relationship added related to 0011613