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0011347ScribusUser Interfacepublic2013-01-07 08:212014-07-03 21:43
Assigned Tocezaryece 
Platformx86_64OSLinuxOS VersionOpenSUSE 12.1
Product Version1.5.0svn 
Target Version1.5.1Fixed in Version 
Summary0011347: Style Dialog: New "Paragraph Effects" are greyed out
DescriptionThat the "Paragraph Effects" are greyed out by default is contrary to everything else in Scribus, because greyed out areas are indicating to the user "This option is not available/applicable". At the very least there should be a checkbox to "Activate Paragraph Effects" or something similar. Since the dialog is already bloated to no end and will need a redesign, this additional option won't hurt for the time being.
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Attached Filespng file icon screenshot – 2013-01-07 09:45:44.png [^] (212,441 bytes) 2013-01-07 09:48

png file icon style_dialog_VD.png [^] (68,677 bytes) 2013-01-10 08:01

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bubu (reporter)
2013-01-07 09:47

In addition with this feature the Style Dialog is too complicated and large. It is no longer fit on the screen. I can't click on OK button. See the screenshot on Ubuntu with 1366×768.
JLuc (developer)
2013-01-07 13:47

well, christoph_s : not ALL paragraph effect is greyed out. Main "Bullet", "Dropcap" and "Numeration" checkbox aren't greyed out. And only these are meaningfull at first, when no effect is specified. Having all the sub-options available would be very confusing since they are not compatible one to the other.

Unless you prefer a 'visible'/'not visible' alternative, as in the PP "effect" subpane, instead of this 'greyed=inactive'/'active' alternative ?
That would be ok, and would probably use less space to do as in the PP.
bubu (reporter)
2013-01-07 16:06

Can we have more tabs there? Why not to separate content to multiple tabs? "General", "Paragraph Effects", "Tabulators and Indentation"...
cezaryece (developer)
2013-01-07 17:39

Well.. I think first I will make it like in Paragraph Effects widget in PP - autohiding unrelated properties.

More tabs? Hmm maybe in PP tabs style (vertical tabs)?
christoph_s (administrator)
2013-01-08 00:31

Cezary: Please no vertical tabs. The are a pain in the butt. What about moving all microtyphograhical options into one tab?
christoph_s (administrator)
2013-01-10 08:01

Cze?? Cezary, I was looking for an example on how to make the Style Manager more useable without completely breaking its current design. To be honest, I still think OO.o's and LO's "Stylist" solution (F11) is the best, but it would be too much work for now. The closest I found to our current Style Manager (including screen estate) is the Style Sheet dialog in VivaDesigner (see screenshot).

As you can see, what Scribus has crammed into two giant tabs has been separated into several entries in a list box (on the left, lower list box). The upper list box comprises all styles in a document, as in Scribus. The first entry for all style options ("Info") lists all selected settings as text.

Of course we can't copy the dialog 1:1, not the least because Scribus works a bit differently, but in general I think this approach might work for 1.5/1.6 and require not many code changes (it would still be a single dialog). It would also allow us to bring back the preview (which had been removed for performance reasons, IIRC). Also note that VD has a separate "numbering" style.
christoph_s (administrator)
2013-01-11 02:16

Cezary, btw, if you are interested, you can download a gratis version of VD here: [^] It has also a Polish UI version available.
christoph_s (administrator)
2013-01-11 10:04

Cezary, and a final (at least for the time being) remark from me would be that we'd have enough space for a preview!
JLuc (developer)
2013-01-11 12:05
edited on: 2013-02-12 17:06

Preview would be very nice yes.

Even if it were in a new (horizontal) tab !

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2013-01-07 08:21 christoph_s New Issue
2013-01-07 09:47 bubu Note Added: 0029623
2013-01-07 09:48 bubu File Added: screenshot – 2013-01-07 09:45:44.png
2013-01-07 13:36 cezaryece Assigned To => cezaryece
2013-01-07 13:36 cezaryece Status new => assigned
2013-01-07 13:47 JLuc Note Added: 0029631
2013-01-07 16:06 bubu Note Added: 0029634
2013-01-07 17:39 cezaryece Note Added: 0029635
2013-01-08 00:31 christoph_s Note Added: 0029649
2013-01-10 08:01 christoph_s Note Added: 0029679
2013-01-10 08:01 christoph_s File Added: style_dialog_VD.png
2013-01-11 02:16 christoph_s Note Added: 0029691
2013-01-11 10:04 christoph_s Note Added: 0029693
2013-01-11 12:05 JLuc Note Added: 0029694
2013-02-12 17:06 JLuc Note Edited: 0029694 View Revisions
2014-07-03 21:43 Kunda Target Version 1.5.0 => 1.5.1

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