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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0005900ScribusUsabilitypublic2008-02-24 19:41
Reporteralexandre Assigned Toplinnell 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status closedResolutionfixed 
Product Version1.3.5svn 
Target Version1.3.5Fixed in Version1.3.5svn 
Summary0005900: Reasonable default values for Scribus
DescriptionOn clean installations of Scribus guides should be shown by default
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Relationships

related to 0005887 closed Applying text effects in the PP paints over the text. 
related to 0005835 closedcbradney Preflight check displays transparency warning for PDF 1.4 
has duplicate 0005923 closedplinnell Reasonable default values for Scribus 
related to 0006636 closedplinnell Reasonable default values for Scribus - 1.3.3.x 
related to 0006864 closedfschmid Display columns as a default 
child of 0005693 closedplinnell 1.3.5 bug collection (prior to roadmap) 

Activities

christoph_s

2007-06-18 22:48

administrator   ~0016570

Other sane defaults:

- guides should be in the foreground by default

- scaling for superscript and subscript shouldn't be 100 % by deafult

- gap between columns shouldn't be 0 by default

- have the bleed settings "chained" by default

- Set lowest allowed resolution for images in the Preflight Check to 100, 150 or 200 dpi

plinnell

2007-06-19 09:01

viewer   ~0016571

- guides should be in the foreground by default

Done

- scaling for superscript and subscript shouldn't be 100 % by deafult

Now 66%, as Scribus raises/lowers script by 33%

- gap between columns shouldn't be 0 by default

- have the bleed settings "chained" by default

- Set lowest allowed resolution for images in the Preflight Check to 100, 150 or 200 dpi

Now 144 dpi

plinnell

2007-06-20 22:01

viewer   ~0016594

bleed settings now chained by default

christoph_s

2007-06-21 15:48

administrator   ~0016608

Default values for images in the Preflight checker is still 10 dpi, minimum and maximum.

christoph_s

2007-06-22 00:16

administrator   ~0016623

Correction: the settings mentioned above are provided for "Postscript", but not for "PostScript" (!), and for PDF 1.3. For other PDF versions, they're correct.

christoph_s

2007-07-01 23:35

administrator   ~0016722

In the PDF export dialog, please don't activate "Convert Spot Colours to Process colours" by default.

christoph_s

2007-07-03 22:47

administrator   ~0016736

Guides are still in the background by default.

Gap between columns in "Tools" is still 0.

Also, please set the default font size from 9 pt to 12 or 11 and for palettes from 9 to 11 or 10.

christoph_s

2007-07-27 21:19

administrator   ~0016880

Last edited: 2007-07-27 22:17

Another sane default value would be the basepoint of objects for rotation as centred, not upper left.

cbradney

2007-07-27 22:06

administrator   ~0016881

Disagree.. typically someone will draw from a corner.

louisdesjardins

2007-07-31 15:16

developer   ~0016923

I agree with the upper left corner left as the default value as this is the most common expected behavior for all apps I know.

- Hyphenation settings with a smallest word of 3 chars seems a bit tight to me. I suggest to put 5 at least there.

- Might be questionable but what about putting 9 points or 5 mm as bleed default values instead of zero?

Explanation: Could even be simpler for the user to have a bleed default value and to have an extra check box in "New Document" where you could simply tell Scribus that your document has bleed or not right from the start. After all, you must know that before you start your layout and if you don't it's about time for you to make a decision. The bleed settings are applied only if you check the box and they are at the industry's standard right from the start. This in my view would be a better implementation than what's done in ID or QXP. All too complicated in my view, for no good reason.

Oh, and the default could be that the document has no bleed. I have no issue with this. Both choice would be sane to me!

AndyFitz

2007-08-21 23:35

reporter   ~0017113

Gey guys a really nice default that I always end up doing is moving the location of the "tools" toolbar to sit vertically on the left hand side.

This is then consistent with inkscape and makes for subtle but great usability between the two apps

christoph_s

2008-01-19 20:49

administrator   ~0018662

In the PDF export dialog > Colour > Printer > "Use Custom Rendering Settings", the default values should be: Frequency: 100, Spot Function: Ellipse.

jghali

2008-02-20 22:57

administrator   ~0019020

100lpi is quite low, most common values in offset printing now are between 133 and 170lpi

christoph_s

2008-02-22 00:40

administrator   ~0019031

The default directory for Scripts should be the installation directory ~/share/scribus/samples.

plinnell

2008-02-22 23:23

viewer   ~0019047

I've thought it through and decided to leave bleed at zero. Anyone needing it will know what size they need.

cbradney

2008-02-23 23:26

administrator   ~0019059

I have disabled custom rendering settings in prefs as the colour stuff doesnt work. Resolving this now.

christoph_s

2008-02-24 19:16

administrator   ~0019063

Frequency is still 70 lpi.

christoph_s

2008-02-24 19:41

administrator   ~0019066

Tested, fixed. Thanks.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2007-06-18 22:22 alexandre New Issue
2007-06-18 22:22 alexandre Status new => assigned
2007-06-18 22:22 alexandre Assigned To => plinnell
2007-06-18 22:48 christoph_s Note Added: 0016570
2007-06-18 23:04 christoph_s Summary Guides should be on by default => Reasonable default values for Scribus
2007-06-18 23:05 christoph_s Relationship added related to 0005887
2007-06-19 09:01 plinnell Note Added: 0016571
2007-06-20 22:01 plinnell Note Added: 0016594
2007-06-20 22:02 plinnell Issue cloned: 0005923
2007-06-20 22:02 plinnell Relationship added related to 0005923
2007-06-20 22:02 plinnell Status assigned => resolved
2007-06-20 22:02 plinnell Fixed in Version => 1.3.5cvs
2007-06-20 22:02 plinnell Resolution open => fixed
2007-06-21 15:48 christoph_s Status resolved => feedback
2007-06-21 15:48 christoph_s Resolution fixed => reopened
2007-06-21 15:48 christoph_s Note Added: 0016608
2007-06-22 00:16 christoph_s Note Added: 0016623
2007-06-25 22:53 christoph_s Relationship added related to 0005835
2007-06-26 19:56 plinnell Status feedback => assigned
2007-06-26 19:56 plinnell Resolution reopened => open
2007-06-26 22:58 plinnell Relationship replaced has duplicate 0005923
2007-07-01 23:35 christoph_s Note Added: 0016722
2007-07-02 23:10 plinnell Status assigned => resolved
2007-07-02 23:10 plinnell Resolution open => fixed
2007-07-03 22:47 christoph_s Status resolved => feedback
2007-07-03 22:47 christoph_s Resolution fixed => reopened
2007-07-03 22:47 christoph_s Note Added: 0016736
2007-07-27 21:19 christoph_s Note Added: 0016880
2007-07-27 21:20 christoph_s Note Edited: 0016880
2007-07-27 22:06 cbradney Status feedback => resolved
2007-07-27 22:06 cbradney Resolution reopened => fixed
2007-07-27 22:06 cbradney Note Added: 0016881
2007-07-27 22:07 cbradney Status resolved => closed
2007-07-27 22:14 cbradney Status closed => assigned
2007-07-27 22:17 christoph_s Note Edited: 0016880
2007-07-31 15:16 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0016923
2007-08-21 23:35 AndyFitz Note Added: 0017113
2008-01-01 10:07 cbradney Target Version => 1.3.5
2008-01-06 22:38 plinnell Issue cloned: 0006636
2008-01-06 22:38 plinnell Relationship added related to 0006636
2008-01-14 18:32 christoph_s Relationship added child of 0005693
2008-01-19 20:49 christoph_s Note Added: 0018662
2008-02-08 17:17 avox Resolution fixed => reopened
2008-02-20 22:57 jghali Note Added: 0019020
2008-02-22 00:40 christoph_s Note Added: 0019031
2008-02-22 23:23 plinnell Note Added: 0019047
2008-02-23 23:26 cbradney Status assigned => resolved
2008-02-23 23:26 cbradney Resolution reopened => fixed
2008-02-23 23:26 cbradney Note Added: 0019059
2008-02-24 19:16 christoph_s Note Added: 0019063
2008-02-24 19:41 christoph_s Status resolved => closed
2008-02-24 19:41 christoph_s Note Added: 0019066
2008-03-18 23:22 christoph_s Relationship added related to 0006864