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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0014153 | Scribus | - | public | 2016-06-16 09:49 | 2016-07-27 09:17 |
| Reporter | ale | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | N/A |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 1.5.3.svn | ||||
| Summary | 0014153: remove the properties based table of contents | ||||
| Description | it's a pain having to tell new users that scribus has a table of contents generator but - nobody is using it, - you're faster by typing the full table of contents, - so don't use it. indeed, i'm not aware that anybody has ever used the feature and i suggest to remove it from scribus. if by chance a document has a table of contents defined, scribus should simply ignore it. if the assumption is true that basically nobody has ever used it in production, people who eventually have used it will have to stick with an old version of scribus or redo their table of contents with styles. | ||||
| Additional Information | cezary has a styles based TOC in scribus-ece. having had a look at his code, it seems easy to add a stripped down implementation as a plugin. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Patch | No | ||||
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of course, if somebody comes up with real use cases for a property based table of contents, we will have to keep it / re-implement it in a new table of contents engine. please, write down such use cases if you know of any. |
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yesterday evening, i've managed to create a stripped down plugin that collects all paragraphs with the styles "h1".."h3" and creates a table of contents with the page numbers. it's missing an UI and it's not inserting the TOC in a text frame yet, but it works and it's less than 200LOC. i'll publish it as soon as it can write the TOC in a text frame. (probably next friday) despite being really minimal, i consider it (even with hardcoded style names) superior to the properties based TOC. |
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Properties based TOC is useful for items that do not use styles, remember, styles should not be mandatory. The code that do we have now should not be thrown away. It will be useful for indexing, generating lists and other things based on properties. |
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expecting the use of styles for the table of contents (or the table of figures) is something that every software nowadays does. concerning the use of frame's properties, i agree that in theory they are an interesting feature. but i still fail to see any practical use case for it. still, i would be delighted if somebody could show good uses for them! |
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Well I used them for my magazines when I was using Scribus for magazines. |
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i've created a very basic plugin, based on cezary's work: https://github.com/aoloe/scribus-plugin-tableofcontents for the short term i plan to - test some corner cases, - add a simple dialog for picking the h and toc styles for each level. (currently, you have to define and use the h1..h3 and toc1..toc3 styles) |
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MrB what do you mean with "Styles should not be mandatory" ? Why more than today properties ? If styles were the way to create a TOC, instead of properties, why not use them ? |
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This function is also needed and also a function to generate in a easy way a toc from paragraph style or the headers from a long Text (like in LibreOffice). The possibility to do it now (scribus 1.4.6) is not realy usable. To create TOC for a book with a lot of chapters and title and subtitles is not possible. Please Developer, if it's possible, make Scribus also usable for long textdocuments with a TOC and also to numbering images, table and diagrams automaticly (like in LibreOffice). A lot of people i know, would use Scribus more, if there is a better way to create TOCs and stuff you needed for scientific documents and books. Thanks a Lot I will try the plugin above, but i ill be nice to have a easier way in a stable version of scribus, mayby version 1.6. |
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michael, the plugin will be in 1.6. promised. this ticket is about removing the current way of doing the TOC. which you confirm is not really usable. |
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So, thanks for the answer. I'm looking forward to test 1.6. Best regards from Thuringia/Germany |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2016-06-16 09:49 | ale | New Issue | |
| 2016-06-16 09:50 | ale | Note Added: 0041664 | |
| 2016-06-16 09:56 | ale | Note Added: 0041665 | |
| 2016-06-16 11:57 | ale | Description Updated | |
| 2016-06-16 17:37 | cbradney | Note Added: 0041667 | |
| 2016-06-16 20:26 | ale | Note Added: 0041668 | |
| 2016-06-16 20:30 | ale | Note Edited: 0041668 | |
| 2016-06-16 21:08 | cbradney | Note Added: 0041669 | |
| 2016-06-19 16:30 | ale | Note Added: 0041689 | |
| 2016-06-19 16:30 | ale | Note Edited: 0041689 | |
| 2016-06-19 16:31 | ale | Note Edited: 0041689 | |
| 2016-06-19 19:38 | JLuc | Note Added: 0041691 | |
| 2016-07-26 10:58 | Michael R. | Note Added: 0041847 | |
| 2016-07-26 21:04 | ale | Note Added: 0041849 | |
| 2016-07-27 09:17 | Michael R. | Note Added: 0041853 |
