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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0004684ScribusPDFpublic2008-02-08 13:26
Reportermhanski Assigned Tochristoph_s  
Status closedResolutionno change required 
Product Version1.3 
Summary0004684: Color bars: Setting to define color bar type needed
DescriptionA check box or two radio buttons to set one of two color bar types:

Option A: as is

Option B: create color bar from 4 CMYK colors (and optionally spot colors)
Additional Informationrequest from pl.comp.dtp, I do hope it's not to far away from what I've been told

Uploaded a sample file with description in Pl, will try to add en description soon.
TagsNo tags attached.


related to 0004683 acknowledged Printing marks (crop, bleed, color bars, etc.): Size settings needed 
related to 0000194 closedfschmid Crop marks and separations crosses 


2006-12-01 17:12


pasery_i_linie_ciecia.jpg (236,540 bytes)   
pasery_i_linie_ciecia.jpg (236,540 bytes)   


2006-12-01 22:40

administrator   ~0013712

yep a en or de description would be very helpful

2006-12-02 00:09


Dokument-4-strona1.png (100,831 bytes)   
Dokument-4-strona1.png (100,831 bytes)   


2006-12-02 00:20

developer   ~0013715

fschmid: just uploaded an En version of the picture


2006-12-03 05:06

developer   ~0013733

I am sorry, but I don't understand what the request is, here. Isn't the en uploaded file the same as in bug 0004683 ?


2006-12-03 10:12

developer   ~0013739

Louis: this request is about the ability to define different _colorbar types_. The other request is about the ability to define _printer marks size_.

And yes, the uploaded file is the same, because it has been sent to me with in one email, and because it refers to both requests.


2006-12-03 14:23

developer   ~0013741

While I fully understand the need for defining _printer marks size_ I am not sure we need to let user specify different colorbar types. At some point, having an option to define everything becomes a bit too much, imo. Let me explain.

We need the name of color on each plate. This is to avoid mistakes on press (or while making analog proofs) — no use in digital printing. I wouldn't make that an option. In my view, I think it's better to concentrate on having a generic color bar that does the job instead of putting options user can select and miss something important.

To calibrate their press, printers will put the marks they need at plate creation anyway. No matter how the stripping is done, manually or electronically, these page color bars will most of the time disappear in the process (actually, they most certainly will unless this is a one-page document printed alone... and even then the printer will prefer to put its own colorbar with all the options that permits to control ink density and uniformity, blanket pressure, dot gain, image distortion, etc.). They are useful to help not mix the plates. This is more related to imposition than page layout.

At page layout level, we need to be able to proof the job and make sure all the color we used are actually part of the separation process. Thus, yes, the need to put color names, including spot colors.

I would not suggest to make that editable, at that level.

In the example shown we are missing the filename, the date and time of the output. We have a bug on the tracker that discusses the need for a more detailed information "box". This would include other details, such as the docket number, the name of the operator or creator, and other infos useful for the workflow.

Sorry to make this answer so verbose! I hope this helps.


2006-12-03 14:47

developer   ~0013742

Sorry to make this answer so verbose! I hope this helps.
That's everything I've hoped for. I can't judge the request myself, so I wanted you two pros to express your opinions whether it's justified at all and how to implement it. Your explanations help a lot. Louis, I think, this is the beginning of a beautiful ...discussion.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2006-12-01 17:11 mhanski New Issue
2006-12-01 17:11 mhanski Issue generated from: 0004683
2006-12-01 17:11 mhanski Relationship added related to 0004683
2006-12-01 17:12 mhanski File Added: pasery_i_linie_ciecia.jpg
2006-12-01 17:14 mhanski Additional Information Updated
2006-12-01 17:16 mhanski Relationship added related to 0000194
2006-12-01 22:40 fschmid Note Added: 0013712
2006-12-02 00:09 mhanski File Added: Dokument-4-strona1.png
2006-12-02 00:20 mhanski Note Added: 0013715
2006-12-03 05:06 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0013733
2006-12-03 10:12 mhanski Note Added: 0013739
2006-12-03 14:23 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0013741
2006-12-03 14:47 mhanski Note Added: 0013742
2008-02-06 15:19 christoph_s Status new => closed
2008-02-06 15:19 christoph_s Resolution open => no change required
2008-02-08 13:25 christoph_s Status closed => resolved
2008-02-08 13:25 christoph_s Assigned To => christoph_s
2008-02-08 13:26 christoph_s Status resolved => closed