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|0013297||Scribus||Canvas||public||2015-08-14 14:53||2023-05-29 16:11|
|Summary||0013297: [Feature] Color Code Master Pages like in Layers dialog (mockup included)|
|Description||Cloned from 0013200|
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|related to||0013200||closed||cbradney||New theme --> master page name does not appear|
|related to||0009948||assigned||jghali||Arrange pages dialog: no visual link between page and master page (1.4.03rc)|
|related to||0010038||new||allow horizontal flatpans on Canvas / Arrange Pages|
|related to||0004170||acknowledged||Custom guides colors|
|related to||0013927||assigned||nitramr||Make better use of available horizontal space for document pages in "Arrange Pages" (display master page names on the sides)|
|related to||0011667||assigned||nitramr||Page manager : provide visual feedback when draging masterpage on page thumbnail|
|related to||0016883||assigned||nitramr||Ugly/Unreadable Arrange Pages / Document Pages labels|
|child of||0003837||acknowledged||Metabug: Master pages/Page templates|
Master page name (subtitle) small, if too long, you can not read, so it would be better marked colors! Such as layers.
ooooh.. I likey.
Color coding makes it SUPER easy to identify quickly. But this is something that looks like some work to implement :(
||Just committed a first try on implementing this feature.|
On Windows, this results in a pretty unreadable mess. See uploaded screenshot.
A few remarks :
- colors now feels at odd with the monochrome icon set
- with specific user theme it may happen that colored text may be unreadable on specific window background. So I'd avoid using any non default color for text in palettes. We already had that problem in the past for story editor.
A solution might be having master pages represented by letters. In the case of a facing pages document starting by a right page we'd have at the top of the palette something like:
A - Normal Left
B - Normal Right
In the bottom page list, the text inside page icon would be replaced by something like
1 - B (or B - 1?)
2 - A
3 - B
4 - A
Yes, I use now this.
I made 300 page book. Colors will help me better see through document structure.
||i agree with jean, color names feel wrong to me, too.|
So it is not possible?
peter, as far as i understand it, it's already in trunk... but it's imo a bad idea to put colors everywhere.
there is a problem, and the problem is that it's hard to know which template is applied to which page.
adding colors is a straight forward workaround but in my eyes not the first part of the solution.
and if you're curious: the in my eyes, the first part of the solution, is to have double sided master pages (when the document / section) is double sided.
the master pages should then be shown on screen as double pages are shown.
there are good changes that you will then have half as much MPs and their name will be half as long...
IMO a step in the right direction and would probably help you better guess which MP is where.
further steps might be necessary.
(and, at the end, if the problem persists... why not adding colors?)
p.s.: the solution with the color boxes on the right is already ways better than the one with the colored names...
but i still think that we should first solve the problem with the number of MPs and the length of their names. first.
||Colours are wrong, there's only a limit and the main distinct colours are garish magenta, cyan, yellow etc.. too ugly. A,B,C, etc should be easier with that tag in the Master Page dialog.|
Similar function (InDesign)
I created a new pattern.
Cbradney, you dislike it?
||This feature was removed from trunk in r20390.|
||Craig, jghali, GregP, see 0013297:0036065 and also the last attachment. Any comments?|
Last drawing proposal makes the best of text titles and color marks.
It would make this palette easyer to manage efficiently.
||The colour labels are fine. The current drawing of the master pages in the dialog is broken and cannot just be applied. The code needs rewriting. If there is to be an indication on canvas, then another method compared to what was previously presented also needs finding (no horrible background colour change). Also, some decent colours need choosing like those in ID. The basic colours as presented in Scribus are also terrible.|
A proposal (0013927) that would help this ticket become realized. Of course it seems per cbradney:
>> The current drawing of the master pages in the dialog is broken and cannot just be applied. The code needs rewriting.
Pure bright colors hurt the eye.
For this feature, default used colors shouldnt be so bright and saturated.
Searching for "light colors scheme" provides loads of sets of friendly UI colors.
For example « The Light And Pale Color Scheme palette has 6 colors which are Water (#CBE4F9), Water (#CDF5F6), Beige (#EFF9DA), Antique White (#F9EBDF), Pale Pink (#F9D8D6) and Soap (#D6CDEA). » (cf https://www.schemecolor.com/light-and-pale.php) and it features both light smooth and differenciated colors.
The pages icons in the masterpages toolbox are sooooo small that
1) the 2 visible letters are very small and not enough easy to read so as to immediatly convey the sense of which masterpage it is
2) there is no room for an even more little colored square / or a "thick" coloured layer / inside each if them. Well there is room but it is very small and makes this little space appear crowded.
It looks better to have the whole rectangle page coloured with soft light colors as the set as in the previous post.
Please find attached the previously uploaded screenshot that I roughly edited with that intent.
Along with these colors, the first letters or the initials of each masterpage name can be inserted, as done in scribus nowadays, particularly when there are more than 7 masterpages because it enables a precise knowledge when there are many masterpages -- it also improves accessibility when there are only a few masterpages, but this is not so crucial for users who are not colour-impaired because the colour enables them to immediately "see'n'feel" where each kind of masterpages is used.
This other color scheme is opinionated and flexible : https://reasonable.work/colors
« Reasonable Colors is an open-source color system for building accessible, nice-looking color palettes.
- The contrast between any shades with a difference of 2 (shade-2 and shade-4, for example) will be at least 3:1.
- Those contrast rules work across all 24 color sets
- The 24 sets of named colors are uniformly spaced, each hue is 15° apart from its neighbors on the LCH color wheel. This uniform spacing makes it simple to find complimentary pairs and build nice-looking color palettes.
Each of the 24 colors is provided in a set of shades whose choice enables to adapt to the context.
|2015-08-14 14:53||Kunda||New Issue|
|2015-08-14 14:53||Kunda||Status||new => assigned|
|2015-08-14 14:53||Kunda||Assigned To||=> cbradney|
|2015-08-14 14:53||Kunda||Issue generated from: 0013200|
|2015-08-14 14:53||Kunda||Relationship added||related to 0013200|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Reporter||Kunda => PeterBenedek|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Assigned To||cbradney =>|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Priority||normal => low|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Severity||minor => feature|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Status||assigned => new|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||OS||Linux Mint =>|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||OS Version||17 (32bit) =>|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Platform||x86 =>|
|2015-08-14 14:55||Kunda||Summary||Color Code Master Pages like in Layers dialog (mockup included) => [Feature] Color Code Master Pages like in Layers dialog (mockup included)|
|2015-08-14 14:57||Kunda||File Deleted: newTheme.jpg|
|2015-08-14 14:57||Kunda||File Deleted: newTheme_perfect.jpg|
|2015-08-16 07:47||fschmid||Note Added: 0036045|
|2015-08-16 13:13||jghali||File Added: pagepalette_win.png|
|2015-08-16 13:25||jghali||Note Added: 0036046|
|2015-08-16 14:00||PeterBenedek||Note Added: 0036047|
|2015-08-16 14:01||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036047|
|2015-08-16 14:03||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036047|
|2015-08-17 07:45||ale||Note Added: 0036052|
|2015-08-17 10:41||PeterBenedek||File Added: ColorMasterPages_2.png|
|2015-08-17 10:42||PeterBenedek||Note Added: 0036053|
|2015-08-17 11:50||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036053|
|2015-08-17 15:38||ale||Note Added: 0036055|
|2015-08-17 15:39||ale||Note Added: 0036056|
|2015-08-17 20:59||cbradney||Note Added: 0036059|
|2015-08-18 08:32||PeterBenedek||Note Added: 0036065|
|2015-08-18 08:33||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036065|
|2015-08-19 08:03||PeterBenedek||File Added: example.png|
|2015-08-19 08:06||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036065|
|2015-08-19 08:11||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036065|
|2015-08-19 09:46||PeterBenedek||Note Edited: 0036065|
|2015-09-26 20:44||Kunda||Note Added: 0036395|
|2015-10-02 23:09||Kunda||Note Added: 0036481|
|2015-10-06 15:43||JLuc||Note Added: 0036527|
|2015-10-06 19:03||cbradney||Note Added: 0036528|
|2016-01-19 20:04||Kunda||Relationship added||related to 0004170|
|2016-04-07 20:34||Kunda||Relationship added||related to 0013927|
|2016-04-07 20:35||Kunda||Relationship added||child of 0003837|
|2016-04-07 20:36||Kunda||Relationship added||related to 0009948|
|2016-04-28 15:04||Kunda||Note Added: 0040576|
|2016-05-09 16:31||Kunda||Relationship added||related to 0010038|
|2016-09-23 17:20||PeterBenedek||Relationship added||related to 0011667|
|2016-09-23 19:20||PeterBenedek||File Deleted: pagepalette_win.png|
|2023-01-18 04:51||PeterBenedek||Relationship added||related to 0016883|
|2023-01-18 12:59||JLuc||Note Added: 0049946|
|2023-01-18 12:59||JLuc||File Added: light-and-pale-by-schemecolor.png|
|2023-01-18 13:16||JLuc||Note Added: 0049947|
|2023-01-18 13:16||JLuc||File Added: ColorMasterPages_3.png|
|2023-01-18 13:21||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049947|
|2023-01-18 13:23||JLuc||Note Edited: 0049947|
|2023-01-19 08:15||JLuc||Note Added: 0049951|
|2023-01-19 08:15||JLuc||File Added: Reasonable Colors.png|
|2023-05-29 16:11||nitramr||Assigned To||=> nitramr|
|2023-05-29 16:11||nitramr||Status||new => assigned|