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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0014606ScribusUsabilitypublic2019-08-18 16:46
Reporterchristoph_s Assigned Tocbradney  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status assignedResolutionopen 
Platformx86 64OSLinuxOS VersionopenSUSE 42.1
Product Version1.5.3.svn 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0014606: Bleed should override page margins when using the Shift shortcut for creating frames
DescriptionCurrently, Scribus doesn't permit the creation of frames that extend to the bleed extension. This is frustrating, because at least shapes and image frames need to be expanded to to the extra bleed space quickly.
Steps To ReproduceCreate a doc, set all margins to zero, add 3 mm bleed. Add a frame while holding the Shift key.

Result: The frame is still restricted to the page boundaries and ignores the additional bleed area.
Additional InformationIf there is a bleed value higher than 0 and the margin values are 0, Shift-click should use the bleed numbers.
TagsNo tags attached.
PatchNo

Relationships

duplicate of 0013211 closedale Snap to bleeds 

Activities

jghali

2017-02-06 19:14

administrator   ~0043449

The shift shortcut is not specifically related to margins. Its effects is to create frames using the boundaries of the closest enclosing guides/margins. So it seems there is a basic misconception on how this functionality works...

christoph_s

2017-02-07 08:27

administrator   ~0043453

No, it isn't. It's a usability issue. I specifically noted that there are no guides or margins involved or set to zero. Then, and only then, image frames and shapes should use the bleed values.

It also contradicts the Insert > Frames ... feature, which does take into consideration bleeds.

jghali

2017-02-07 09:26

administrator   ~0043456

>> No, it isn't. It's a usability issue. I specifically noted that there are no guides or margins involved or set to zero. Then, and only then, image frames and shapes should use the bleed values.

You forgot in the meantime that page borders also act as guides. So given how the shift shortcut works, even if margins are set to 0, this isn't bleeds which should be taken into account.

>> It also contradicts the Insert > Frames ... feature, which does take into consideration bleeds.

No it doesn't, because the Insert > Frames features doesn't take bleeds into account by default.

ale

2019-08-18 16:46

manager   ~0046479

this cannot work. 0 is a valid value for the margins and margins are a a valid enclosing boundary.

i love the shift click, but i don't see a good technical way to use the shift click to expand to the bleeds.
not even after having applied my patch that enables snapping to the bleeds.
neverless, with that patch it will be easier to create a shape or image that has the size of the bleeds.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2017-02-06 08:37 christoph_s New Issue
2017-02-06 08:37 christoph_s Status new => assigned
2017-02-06 08:37 christoph_s Assigned To => cbradney
2017-02-06 19:14 jghali Note Added: 0043449
2017-02-07 08:27 christoph_s Note Added: 0043453
2017-02-07 09:23 ale Relationship added duplicate of 0013211
2017-02-07 09:26 jghali Note Added: 0043456
2019-08-18 16:46 ale Note Added: 0046479