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ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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0001731 | Scribus | Fonts | public | 2005-02-26 20:43 | 2005-06-11 11:29 |
Reporter | louisdesjardins | Assigned To | fschmid | ||
Priority | normal | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
Platform | Linux | OS | Mandrake | OS Version | 10.1 |
Product Version | 1.2.2cvs | ||||
Fixed in Version | 1.2.2cvs | ||||
Summary | 0001731: Overlapping letters | ||||
Description | Some letters are overlapping at end of lines. This bug can be replicated only when you hyphenate text. Unhyphenated text don't have this problem. | ||||
Steps To Reproduce | 1. Create a text box 2. Put some text 3. Format using any font 4. Hyphenate (after testing, this seems to be a condition to recreate the bug) 5. Resize the box 6. Some endlines will show overlapping letters Note : you may have to resize a lot before getting the letters to overlap. | ||||
Additional Information | Not related to a particular font. Tested with: Nimbus Sans L Bold A030 Bold Garamond No8 Regular URW Gothic L Demi Oblique Could not find a pattern. Tried with various text inset. Same thing. Tried with various hyphenation settings. Same thing. Tried with text typed directly in text frame and text imported from .sxw file. Same Result. An easy way to replicate the bug is by slowly enlarging the text frame using shift + mouse scroll into the width field until letters eventually overlap. | ||||
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This is not only a screen preview issue. Export PDF and you'll get exactly what you see: overlapping letters. Very annoying. |
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I tested more and here is additionnal information: 1. When the overlap occurs on a line that's hyphenated, the hyphen remains there if the word is long enough but it then hyphenates wrongly. Example: effi-cace ends up eff-icace (in French, the latest is wrong). 2. The problem doesn't seem related to typesize. I've tried with lots of different sizes and I am always able to reproduce the bug. 3. Once the problem is located, it is possible to reproduce it using either the width of the text frame or the gutter width. 4. Text frame can have any number of columns, issue still present. 5. When text is justified, letters overlap and... (see 6) 6. ...when text is ragged right, the overlapping letter is pushed to the far right side of text frame. |
2005-03-01 23:22
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2005-03-01 23:22
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I am taking the liberty to add Rolf's comment from the mailing list, about the same issue: " [...] the thing appeared directly after inserting and hyphenating a text without changing the frame." |
2005-03-02 13:46
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2005-03-02 13:47
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Test3.png and Test4.png (from Rolf) only to show it happens with various languages. So, tested with French and German. |
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Well... Finally found a workaround to this issue. Issue seems clearly related to hyphenation. I have no other clue so far. I am ready to investigate further if necessary. Please let me know what the plans are. I can also reaffirm it's *v e r y* annoying. I'm putting the last touch to a tight 12 pages of additionnal documentation on Scribus for my workshop at AQUOPS and this caused me problems, more than once. Overall quality control and proofreading are complicated. Quite unproductive imo. Workaround: 1. Open the Story Editor and select the word that has overlapping letters. 2. Retype this word (beware of typos...). 3. If it's a long word, retype only a portion of it, where letters overlap. Try to at least grab a hyphen, even if you don't see it. 4. Repeat for all instances in each text frame where the problem occurs. 5. Update text and leave the Story Editor. Warning!: Beware of other instances that can occur consequently (it happens)! This operation will take away the hyphens (the hyphens are of course invisible when not needed, still, they are there) that cause the problem. Of course, you might as well end up with a few holes in your type which will affect the overall "typographic gray". But at least your readers will be able to follow. And it's always possible to add a discretionary hyphen manually using CTRL + hyphen (-). |
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Reminder sent to: fschmid I can confirm this is a very annoying bug and it still exists in 1.3cvs. Even in the roadmap I didn't find a planned bugfix for this. I think this should have higher priority than e.g. changes in the user interface because it really breaks the functionality. Cheers, Christian. |
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Can you please provide a small sample doc which shows that issue? |
2005-04-08 22:58
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2005-04-08 22:59
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Hi Franz, I have just uploaded a .sla file showing the problem, plus its .pdf version. Please let me know if anything else was needed. Many thanks! Louis |
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tested the fix for both 1.2.2 and 1.3.0. Looks perfect now. |
Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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2005-02-26 20:43 | louisdesjardins | New Issue | |
2005-02-27 13:27 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0003833 | |
2005-02-27 16:40 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0003835 | |
2005-03-01 23:22 | louisdesjardins | File Added: OverlappingLetters2.png | |
2005-03-01 23:22 | louisdesjardins | File Added: SeparatedLettersRagRight.png | |
2005-03-02 13:37 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0003855 | |
2005-03-02 13:46 | louisdesjardins | File Added: test3.png | |
2005-03-02 13:47 | louisdesjardins | File Added: test4.png | |
2005-03-02 13:49 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0003856 | |
2005-03-06 12:32 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0003880 | |
2005-03-07 12:00 | cbradney | Status | new => assigned |
2005-03-07 12:00 | cbradney | Assigned To | => fschmid |
2005-04-07 07:28 |
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Note Added: 0004107 | |
2005-04-08 19:08 | fschmid | Note Added: 0004195 | |
2005-04-08 22:58 | louisdesjardins | File Added: overlappingletters.sla | |
2005-04-08 22:59 | louisdesjardins | File Added: overlappingletters.pdf | |
2005-04-08 23:01 | louisdesjardins | Note Added: 0004203 | |
2005-06-01 22:12 |
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Relationship added | related to 0002019 |
2005-06-01 22:13 |
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Relationship replaced | has duplicate 0002019 |
2005-06-11 10:42 | fschmid | Status | assigned => resolved |
2005-06-11 10:42 | fschmid | Fixed in Version | => 1.2.2cvs |
2005-06-11 10:42 | fschmid | Resolution | open => fixed |
2005-06-11 11:29 |
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Status | resolved => closed |
2005-06-11 11:29 |
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Note Added: 0004995 | |
2006-05-16 22:12 | christoph_s | Relationship added | related to 0003828 |