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0009096ScribusUsabilitypublic2019-11-07 17:30
Reporteralexandre Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version1.5.0 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0009096: Tool options on canvas
DescriptionThe way tools options are available now is somewhat counter-productive. If you look e.g. at GIMP 2.7 from master branch in Git you'll see that the new Text tool has a compact on-canvas transparent palette that allows changing typeface, font size and setting kerning, tracking and baseline shift. After having used it a lot I can say that while it does need work, it's much better that doing the same from a sidebar palette, because focus of your attention stays in one place.

Now, many things can't possibly fit canvas, but there are things that would definitely benefit from similar approach. I'm specifically referring to the Path Tool's palette and the new Mesh Tool options palette.

As for the Path tool, I'd rather see a combination of Inkscape's path tool and on-canvas palette. I'll file a separate report on that.
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related to 0009099 new A better Path tool 
related to 0015926 assignedale make the node editor slimmer and use it as a toolbar placed at top the shape 
related to 0003513 assignedTsoots Toolbar: rearrange icons, allow two column view (mockups included) 

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plinnell

2010-05-11 21:20

viewer   ~0023899

screenie of gimp please :)

alexandre

2010-05-11 21:56

developer   ~0023901

http://prokoudine.info/files/gimp-text-tool-on-canvas.jpg

Please note that one of GIMP's GSoC projects this year is implementing a whole infrastructure for drawing tools options on canvas.

http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/student_project/show/google/gsoc2010/gimp/t127230759130

As a matter of fact, GIMP 2.7 (Git again) already draws dialogs of all color tools on canvas in fullscreen mode.

cbradney

2010-05-11 21:59

administrator   ~0023902

Please provide programmers or patches for these requests.. we have no spare resources.

ale

2010-05-12 08:48

manager   ~0023907

i guess a first step will be to provide use cases and mockups on how to implement this in scribus.

imo, showing how gimp manages text is not that useful, since in scribus you want much more control on your text: that toolbar would be much bigger and hence probably useless!
(i don't think users will be interested in having just italics and bold in there... we should have ctrl+shift+b and ctrl+shift+i for it... if we ever find a way to reliably detect or define italics and bolds... but i disgress.)

i would like to see how gimp can integrate "adjust color curves" in that framework in order to be able to judge if it may be useful for scribus...

putting the controls on top of the frame won't be very useful for most people, either: in scribus text frames tend to be much longer and you will probably prefer to go to the PP than to scroll up just to be able to see the toolbar.


still, the concept is imho interesting and should be related to the work pierre did for the modularization of the PP.
what i personally would welcome is a personalized and content specific toolbar which would show up at the cursor place on a key press (i'd love to use the tab key for it...). but this is just a dream!

alexandre

2010-05-12 17:30

developer   ~0023914

"imo, showing how gimp manages text is not that useful"

Absolutely. It's just an example of existing solution. What would be the point of referring to something that doesn't exist yet? :)

"i would like to see how gimp can integrate "adjust color curves" in that framework in order to be able to judge if it may be useful for scribus..."

1. Build Git
2. Start GIMP, open some image
3. F11 for fullscreen mode
4. Fire up curves dialog

It's crude, but it works. I'd be interested to see effects from the effects stack in Scribus working on canvas instead of the tiny preview area (that was also color UNmanaged last time I tried).

"what i personally would welcome is a personalized and content specific toolbar which would show up at the cursor place"

That's very much in the lines of the proposal :)

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-05-11 20:08 alexandre New Issue
2010-05-11 21:20 plinnell Note Added: 0023899
2010-05-11 21:56 alexandre Note Added: 0023901
2010-05-11 21:59 cbradney Note Added: 0023902
2010-05-12 08:48 ale Note Added: 0023907
2010-05-12 17:30 alexandre Note Added: 0023914
2016-02-02 19:10 Kunda Relationship added related to 0003513
2016-04-25 11:37 Kunda Tag Attached: indigodock
2016-04-25 11:38 Kunda Relationship added related to 0009099
2019-11-07 17:30 ale Relationship added related to 0015926