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0009282ScribusGeneralpublic2016-11-07 03:14
Reporterpygmee Assigned Tocbradney  
Status assignedResolutionfixed 
PlatformLinuxOSDebianOS VersionLenny
Product Version1.5.0svn 
Target Version1.4.7Fixed in Version1.5.0svn 
Summary0009282: Check for Render frame dependencies
DescriptionI wished to test renderfame on my mac on ouch, pdflatex missing. I guess that as for Ghostscript, Scribus should check if Tex dependencies are there and deactivate renderframe tool or at least display a message if they are not there.
Tagsrender frames


has duplicate 0013596 closed [1.4.5] Render Frames does not work out of the box, needs to be set manually 
child of 0007647 acknowledgedHerm Metabug: Render Frames (LaTeX, GnuPlot, LilyPond, GraphViz, etc.) 



2010-08-19 22:02

administrator   ~0024507

I have added some checks in 1.5.0 revision 15434, if no configs, or no commands or none of the commands are callable.. then it pops up an error.


2010-08-19 22:19

administrator   ~0024508

Please test in 1.5.0svn.. if ok, I'll backport to 1.3.9svn. Christoph will suggest a better warning msg.


2010-08-19 22:22

administrator   ~0024509

Also, note, the rescan button in new prefs also checks for some common pdflatex paths..


2010-08-20 08:40

manager   ~0024511

would be an option to deactivate the rendering for those external application which are not installed?

currently i can't create any render frame just because povray (or any other tool) is not installed (or wrongly defined).

an alternative would be to pop up the error when trying (and failing) to show the content for a specific external too.


2010-08-20 16:56

administrator   ~0024514

It doesnt check they are all there, just one.. that will mean that scribus cannot find the apps that you have defined.


2010-08-20 22:28

manager   ~0024516

well, it used to find latex...

pdflatex is defined as "pdflatex --interaction nonstopmode"


$ which pdflatex
$ pdflatex --version
pdfTeX 3.1415926-1.40.10-2.2 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)
kpathsea version 5.0.0
Copyright 2009 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and
the Lesser GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the file
named COPYING and the pdfTeX source.
Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Compiled with libpng 1.2.43; using libpng 1.2.44
Compiled with zlib; using zlib
Compiled with poppler version 0.12.4

there is no reason for scribus not to find it!


2010-08-21 20:23

administrator   ~0024517

ale.. what OS?


2010-08-21 22:14

administrator   ~0024519

nm.. can replicate on linux..


2010-08-21 22:40

administrator   ~0024520

Turned off the test for now.. the latex code is too twisted.


2010-08-22 04:30

administrator   ~0024521

What about the following solution:

If none of the pre-configured programs is found, display the following message when a user wants to insert a Render Frame:

"Scribus cannot find any of the currently pre-configured external programs that are required to work with Render Frames (pdflatex, lilypond, gnuplot, povray. Please install at least one of them or, if you have already done so, use File > Preferences > External Tools to add the correct path to program's executable."

If one or more pre-configured programs are missing (but at least one is installed and found), the user should see a warning like this:

"The programs x, y, z are pre-configured for use with Render Frames, but either Scribus did not find them or they aren't installed on your computer. If you think you will need one of them, please install it and click the "Rescan" button under File > Preferences > External Tools. If the program is already installed, you can use the "Change Command" button under File > Preferences > External Tools > Render Frames to add the actual path to the program's executable file."

The latter needs an option like "Disable Warning" or something similar.


2010-08-23 14:23

manager   ~0024524

... i guess a user should never see a warning like this...


2010-08-23 22:50

manager   ~0024525

tested the new patch. i could create a pdflatex rendered frame... works ok.

i had a sensible alert when choosing povray.

i just wonder what happens when the default tool is missing, but i'm too tired to test it.

thanks for the good work!


2010-08-24 20:12

administrator   ~0024526

pygmee & christoph, can you please test?

ale.. is this ok to backport to 1.3.9svn?


2010-08-25 08:45

developer   ~0024528

I have all the programs installed in standard directories (/usr/bin) but i get the message, and i think i shouldn't. Build today on rev 15441


2010-08-25 20:14

manager   ~0024531

i don't have the feeling that the solution is already rock solid... but if the code behind it is clean and can easily be extended in the future i think it's worth to backport it...

well, it may also depend much on how long it will take to get 1.6 out...


2010-08-26 20:15

administrator   ~0024535

pygmee.. please nuke your prefs, or at least the external tools section


2010-08-26 21:11

developer   ~0024536

Yep, better now. The error message is displayed only the first time we try to use the external tool. Is that right ?


2010-08-26 21:34

administrator   ~0024537

No, every time until the settings are corrected.


2010-08-27 00:28

administrator   ~0024538

I checked out 1.5svn, built a fresh version, deleted the old one and installed the new one. I also deleted the ./scribus folder, but I'm still getting the old error message.


2015-06-18 15:59

updater   ~0035430

For some reason render frames started working for me recently. Up till then I was getting an error. I think it may have been something with my migration from OSX 10.9 to 10.10

So on
1.5.1 r20169 Render Frames Work
1.5.0 r20099 Render Frames Do not Work (does not find pdflatex)
1.4.5 Render Frames Do not work (does not find pdflatex)


2015-12-22 21:04

updater   ~0037974

Last edited: 2015-12-22 21:07

Closing duplicate 0013596 (Scribus 1.4.5 Render Frames does not work out of the box, needs to be set manually)

See 0013596:0037961
and 0013596:0037962
For OS 10.11.2 with SIP enabled (default), I followed the above suggestion but again it produced no result. However, since the terminal query "which pdflatex" returned
I entered

/Library/TeX/texbin/pdflatex "--interaction nonstopmode"

(note quotes!) and the render frame is now working. I have not yet tried this with Scribus 1.5.

Thanks to Kunda for the suggestion. 


2015-12-22 21:06

updater   ~0037976

This needs to be fixed before 1.4.6 comes out (or whatever the last release of 1.4.x will be)


2016-11-07 03:14

updater   ~0042349

Still an issue in Manjaro 16.10 using latest SVN HEAD r21498
Looks like pdflatex is in the texlive package on Arch Linux. So we need to have a dependency or a check that if render frames get triggered and the pdflatex binary isn't installed that Scribus asks us if we'd like to install it

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-07-17 21:03 pygmee New Issue
2010-08-19 22:01 cbradney Assigned To => cbradney
2010-08-19 22:01 cbradney Status new => assigned
2010-08-19 22:02 cbradney Note Added: 0024507
2010-08-19 22:19 cbradney Note Added: 0024508
2010-08-19 22:19 cbradney Status assigned => resolved
2010-08-19 22:19 cbradney Fixed in Version => 1.5.0svn
2010-08-19 22:19 cbradney Resolution open => fixed
2010-08-19 22:22 cbradney Note Added: 0024509
2010-08-20 08:40 ale Note Added: 0024511
2010-08-20 16:56 cbradney Note Added: 0024514
2010-08-20 22:28 ale Note Added: 0024516
2010-08-21 20:23 cbradney Note Added: 0024517
2010-08-21 22:14 cbradney Note Added: 0024519
2010-08-21 22:40 cbradney Note Added: 0024520
2010-08-22 04:30 christoph_s Note Added: 0024521
2010-08-22 12:41 cbradney Status resolved => assigned
2010-08-23 14:23 ale Note Added: 0024524
2010-08-23 22:50 ale Note Added: 0024525
2010-08-24 20:12 cbradney Note Added: 0024526
2010-08-25 08:45 pygmee Note Added: 0024528
2010-08-25 20:14 ale Note Added: 0024531
2010-08-26 20:15 cbradney Note Added: 0024535
2010-08-26 21:11 pygmee Note Added: 0024536
2010-08-26 21:34 cbradney Note Added: 0024537
2010-08-27 00:28 christoph_s Note Added: 0024538
2015-05-25 13:44 Kunda Patch => No
2015-05-25 13:44 Kunda Target Version => 1.6 milestone
2015-06-18 15:59 Kunda Note Added: 0035430
2015-12-22 21:00 Kunda Relationship added parent of 0013596
2015-12-22 21:04 Kunda Note Added: 0037974
2015-12-22 21:04 Kunda Relationship replaced has duplicate 0013596
2015-12-22 21:06 Kunda Note Added: 0037976
2015-12-22 21:06 Kunda Target Version 1.6 milestone => 1.4.6
2015-12-22 21:07 Kunda Note Edited: 0037974
2015-12-22 21:07 Kunda Note Edited: 0037974
2015-12-24 13:04 Kunda Relationship added child of 0007647
2016-01-12 13:10 jghali Target Version 1.4.6 => 1.4.7
2016-05-12 03:29 Kunda Tag Attached: render frames
2016-11-07 03:14 Kunda Note Added: 0042349