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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0002100ScribusGeneralpublic2016-05-25 18:42
Reporterpacketbell Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status acknowledgedResolutionopen 
Product Version1.3.0cvs 
Target VersionFuture Release - Nice to haveFixed in Version 
Summary0002100: Tab leader alignment
DescriptionTab leaders (fill characters) don't line up when using a proportional font. For the most pleasing effect, the fill characters should right-align:

Item ............... 20
Chapter ............ 27
^ ^ ^


It would also be nice to control the amount of white space between fill characters and surrounding text:

[Position: 2.500in |^] [Fill Character: Dot |^] [Distance from text: 5pt |^]
Additional InformationA few more examples:

Current implementation
InDesign..............10
Scribus...............87
QuarkXPress..........100

Text-align left, fillchar-align right, tab-align right:
InDesign ........... 10
Scribus ............ 87
QuarkXPress ........ 100

Text-align left, fillchar-align right, tab-align right:
InDesign ........... 10
Scribus ............ 87
QuarkXPress ........ 100


Using 1.3.0cvs 6/16/05, Fedora Core 3.
TagsNo tags attached.
PatchNo

Relationships

related to 0010367 new add new Fill Char to tabulators 
related to 0011688 new tab definition : "user defined filling" is broken 
related to 0003896 acknowledged Metabug: Scientific Publishing 

Activities

2005-06-16 23:30

 

1.3cvs-tab-alignment.png (8,546 bytes)
1.3cvs-tab-alignment.png (8,546 bytes)

packetbell

2005-06-16 23:32

reporter   ~0005057

Examples above should be viewed with fixed-width font :)

2005-06-17 05:23

 

tableaders.jpg (30,494 bytes)
tableaders.jpg (30,494 bytes)

cbradney

2005-06-17 05:24

administrator   ~0005058

Is this (new screenshot) not what you want? (minus the white space adjustment option)

packetbell

2005-06-17 12:26

reporter   ~0005059

The effect becomes more noticeable with larger point sizes and different fill characters. Ultimately, the fill characters should line up. I attached an example of different leaders you would use for an index and a table of contents. When spaced farther apart, the mis-alignment becomes very noticeable.

2005-06-17 12:38

 

tab-leader-alignment.png (11,708 bytes)
tab-leader-alignment.png (11,708 bytes)

cbradney

2005-06-17 15:23

administrator   ~0005060

Got a sample doc? Mine line up with the combinations I've tried, various fonts monospaced and not), sizes and fill character. Are you running current 1.3.0cvs?

fschmid

2005-06-17 19:06

administrator   ~0005061

Got the idea now, but it's difficult with the current one-line textrendering engine. But maybe i get some nice ideas.

2005-06-18 15:08

 

tab-leaders-4.png (20,094 bytes)
tab-leaders-4.png (20,094 bytes)

packetbell

2005-06-18 15:09

reporter   ~0005064

Maybe a good cheat would be to render the fill characters right-to-left (or simply right-align the fill characters). Gimped a mock-up.

louisdesjardins

2005-06-19 23:47

developer   ~0005072

I must admit I don't get what the issue is.
Tab-leaders can be set using a right-align tab value. The page number that follows is better right-aligned so the units will align properly (in sequences where "10+" digits are to be found with "0-9" digits).
In any case, this can be set to the user's taste or need.
I understand we have all this kind of control here. Is there something obvious I'm missing?

packetbell

2005-06-20 02:08

reporter   ~0005073

Louis-its not the alignment of the units at/after the tab position, but rather the alignment of the fill characters. It becomes especially noticeable in larger point sizes, or when the fill characters are spaced apart wider, for chapter leaders. Take a look at the third screenshot, and you'll see that none of the fill characters line up.

louisdesjardins

2005-06-21 22:26

developer   ~0005088

I see. I thought this was because of a tab missing.

ale

2012-07-05 17:26

manager   ~0028376

right alignment is not a workaround: if the numbers are 11 and 88 the dots won't align the same way.
but the concern is real and will have to be solved as soon as we have real table of contents...

it would nice if somebody could find a rule / algorithm to be applied.
(as an example by having a look at the way latex does)

Kunda

2016-03-15 13:33

manager   ~0039186

how will the new textboxes affect this issue?

ale

2016-03-15 15:37

manager   ~0039190

it probably won't.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2005-06-16 23:30 packetbell New Issue
2005-06-16 23:30 packetbell File Added: 1.3cvs-tab-alignment.png
2005-06-16 23:32 packetbell Note Added: 0005057
2005-06-17 05:23 cbradney File Added: tableaders.jpg
2005-06-17 05:24 cbradney Note Added: 0005058
2005-06-17 12:26 packetbell Note Added: 0005059
2005-06-17 12:38 packetbell File Added: tab-leader-alignment.png
2005-06-17 15:23 cbradney Note Added: 0005060
2005-06-17 19:06 fschmid Note Added: 0005061
2005-06-18 10:16 ringerc Status new => acknowledged
2005-06-18 15:08 packetbell File Added: tab-leaders-4.png
2005-06-18 15:09 packetbell Note Added: 0005064
2005-06-19 23:47 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0005072
2005-06-20 02:08 packetbell Note Added: 0005073
2005-06-21 22:26 louisdesjardins Note Added: 0005088
2006-06-07 19:25 christoph_s Relationship added related to 0003896
2012-07-05 17:26 ale Note Added: 0028376
2016-03-15 13:33 Kunda Note Added: 0039186
2016-03-15 13:34 Kunda Patch => No
2016-03-15 13:34 Kunda Target Version => Future Release - Nice to have
2016-03-15 15:37 ale Note Added: 0039190
2016-05-25 18:39 PeterBenedek Relationship added related to 0010367
2016-05-25 18:39 PeterBenedek Relationship added related to 0011688