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|0002751||Scribus||Integration||public||2005-10-21 21:37||2006-02-25 13:31|
|Platform||x86 Linux||OS||Ubuntu||OS Version||5.10|
|Summary||0002751: Scribus and Gnome: setting GUI font size and encoding|
|Description||Scribus seems to ignore default GUI font size/encoding in desktop environments other than KDE, e.g. Gnome: |
1. GUI font size: On Gnome, menu fonts are always much to big in comparison to other applications, until changed in kdeglobals
2. GUI font encoding: If I launch Scribus on my Polish Gnome desktop -- either with LANG=pl_PL or LANG=pl_PL.utf8 -- all the specific Polish diacritics are replaced by rectangulars. It also seems to be the case on XFCE, as indicated in the bug 2735.
IMHO, since Scribus is a QT, and not a KDE application, it should make use of the current desktop environment settings and not depend on any KDE settings.
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|related to||0001083||closed||Tsoots||Smaller font size for tool palettes|
|related to||0002735||closed||Live DTP CD: missing Polish fonts in GUI and text frames|
|related to||0003291||closed||Preferences>General: Font face setting needed|
|related to||0002750||closed||malex||Ubuntu Breezy 5.10: Prebuild 1.3.1 deb package harms Gnome desktop|
|related to||0002134||closed||cbradney||All fonts in interface replace by square|
|related to||0002869||closed||malex||Please put Scribus on Ubuntu/Gnome into Graphics menu|
||Scribus gets its info from Qt, KDE only provides more style options to Qt. Without include GTK2 code, I doubt we can get any GUI info.???|
As per my comment in 0002735, this is an issue with debian packaging of Qt. We cannot fix this until they ship some sane defaults for Qt applications. We inherit whatever Qt environment is available.
I would note if kdebase is shipped with artwork, this generally not an issue.
I recommend a bug be filed with debian complaining loudly about their packaging of Qt.
Kubuntu live CD with Scribus just works (tm).
One other issue with the live DTP cd, which I have already noted is the abundance of subpar quality fonts which are installed by default.
I have written *extensively* about this in the docs.
On my system I can switch and run Scribus from UTF-8_en to any number of locales including Cyrillic, CJK or even Arabic and I do not see this issue.
<quoting>Scribus gets its info from Qt, KDE only provides more style options to Qt. Without include GTK2 code, I doubt we can get any GUI info.???</qouting>
Craig, I'm reopening this again to share some ideas on possible solutions. Close it again, if you don't find them useful. Now, that I know, why this happens, i think there might be some place for improvement, to make things easier for Ubuntu/Gnome users too.
1. Let the user change the GUI font face in Edit>Preferences...>General, not only the font size and theme -- it would allow to change the GUI font to one with proper encoding, even if there is no qtconfig
2. Check on the first launch of Scribus, if there is the necessary qt information to inherit from, and if not, let the user set the GUI font face and size -- you can even launch qtconfig before launching scribus
3. Check on the first launch of Scribus the current desktop environment (at least the mainstream desktops like Gnome), and if not KDE and there is no qt info to inherit from, try to take over the font face/size of the current desktop into Scribus prefs, e.g. for Gnome ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml contains the following information:
<entry name="icon_theme" mtime="1130359782" type="string">
<entry name="gtk_theme" mtime="1130450130" type="string">
<entry name="monospace_font_name" mtime="1129304585" type="string">
<stringvalue>Courier New 10</stringvalue>
<entry name="font_name" mtime="1129304548" type="string">
Note that accessing the gconf database directly is probably a bad idea. There's no strong guarantee it'll stay in the same format, be in the same place, or otherwise remain how you expect. While not fatal, it's also just icky to try to use it directly.
A possibly cleaner way might be to ask gconf about the value of a key. If it must be done at runtime it can be done with dlopen(..) or by simply calling out to gconftool, eg:
$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name
$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name
This really looks like a smart solution.
If actively asking GNOME for the font must be done, that's probably how I'd do it. I still hope there's a better way. For one thing, it could be difficult to reliably tell that we're actually running within GNOME.
XSettings seems to actually be implemented in modern desktops (no idea about KDE, but XFCE and GNOME at least) so it might be a viable way to get font settings. Here's the (short and less than ideally useful) spec:
with reference implementation:
XSettings would solve the "so what desktop are we running under today" problem by providing one interface to grab settings from . It's probably at least checking if the major desktops use this, and seeing if we can lift a client interface to it from KDE. Failing that, it should be possible to write a nice clean pure-Qt one for others to use later.
||I think it would be necessary to either run "$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name" on _every_ Scribus launch or to include font face into Scribus preferences and allow users to change it in Edit>Preferences>General. It would allow users to control the GUI after the first launch of Scribus, even if they change font face of their desktop environment afterwards.|
closing, since there is no sign of interest from the author of the live cd
the issue with the proper font face for menus and palettes went into 3291
|2005-10-21 21:37||mhanski||New Issue|
|2005-10-21 21:38||mhanski||Relationship added||related to 0001083|
|2005-10-21 21:38||mhanski||Relationship added||related to 0002735|
|2005-10-21 21:44||mhanski||Description Updated|
|2005-10-21 23:33||cbradney||Note Added: 0007169|
||Note Added: 0007172|
||Status||new => resolved|
||Resolution||open => won't fix|
||Note Added: 0007174|
|2005-10-26 21:43||mhanski||Relationship added||related to 0002750|
|2005-10-27 11:25||mhanski||Relationship added||related to 0002134|
|2005-10-27 22:34||mhanski||Status||resolved => feedback|
|2005-10-27 22:34||mhanski||Resolution||won't fix => reopened|
|2005-10-27 22:34||mhanski||Note Added: 0007242|
||Note Added: 0007245|
|2005-10-28 22:04||mhanski||Note Added: 0007246|
||Note Added: 0007247|
|2005-10-31 09:56||mhanski||Note Added: 0007281|
|2005-11-22 23:27||mhanski||Summary||Scribus and Gnome: GUI font size and encoding => Scribus and Gnome: setting GUI font size and encoding|
|2005-12-27 16:40||mhanski||Relationship added||related to 0002869|
|2006-02-25 13:27||mhanski||Relationship added||related to 0003291|
|2006-02-25 13:31||mhanski||Status||feedback => closed|
|2006-02-25 13:31||mhanski||Note Added: 0008901|
|2006-02-25 13:31||mhanski||Resolution||reopened => suspended|