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|ID||Project||Category||View Status||Date Submitted||Last Update|
|0001099||Scribus||General||public||2004-09-17 18:45||2006-01-10 14:05|
|Fixed in Version||1.3.2cvs|
|Summary||0001099: Inline graphics|
|Description||The ability to use (small) graphics directly in a text. Very handy when creating user manuals, like: "Click on the [icon] tool to open a document".|
Options should include:
- Baseline shift
- Text flow around the graphic if it spans more than one row.
- Autoscale graphic with text (if text is resized, resize graphic proportionally as well).
|Additional Information||I know this feature has been previously dismissed in the mailing list as 'something you typically find in word processors', but it is quite handy for placement of small graphics within a text.|
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|related to||0001305||closed||Dynamic line spacing|
|related to||0002098||acknowledged||Metabug: New File Format|
|related to||0002395||closed||fschmid||Portability: Casting between pointer and int|
|has duplicate||0000416||closed||cbradney||inline graphics in text|
|has duplicate||0004831||feedback||Add ability to position an image relative to a paragraph, not just a page|
|related to||0001138||acknowledged||Style-sheet for images|
|related to||0001155||acknowledged||Support non-breakable text blocks|
Another nice tweak for inline graphics would be to place the options above in a 'style' descriptor, so that all inline graphics based on a particular style can be modified at once.
Some other tweaks would also be nice, like assigning spot-colors to an image style, so that all graphics with that style print in blue instead of grayscale for example.
The problem here is that you can't define a "small" graphic. First time users could think that that would be the normal way of inserting graphics in the text. I think that one can put such a graphics frame in the scrapbook (I didn't tested it though) and drag&drop it from there.
Anyway I can think of an option to use graphics for the bulleted lists
It doesn't have to be a small graphic, that's just the most practical use of inline graphics. Say if you were writing a manual for Scribus, and instead of saying click on the 'Edit Frame Contents' icon, you could just say click on the [inline_graphic] icon. That's a pretty common use.
Another advantage of inline graphics is that they automatically move with the text. Right now, you could place a small graphic *over* the text, and force text to flow around it, but then you'd have to re-position the graphic everytime the text changes.
>>>> inline graphics [...] automatically move with the text
Agree. I think we definitely want that feature, with all the options cited.
The graphics would then be part of text just like words are, and spaced like words. Could also be alone on a line, centered, left or right aligned. I see so many uses for this feature: drop caps, chapter headers, etc.
I guess any graphic could have the option of being anchored to text.
I, too, would find this extremely useful. I think it'd be important to permit both vector graphics objects and graphics frames to be used for such in-line graphics, too.
The use I have in mind is classified advertising. Images and laid-out ads are often included in-line in text, and being able to flow them all together would be very helpful.
As for "feature you find in a word processor," I feel compelled to note that it's a feature you find in word processors, FrameMaker, and Adobe InDesign. I'm not convinced it should be dismissed that lightly.
This bug looks like its actually a duplicate of the older 0000416 and I've marked it as such. It might really be better to reverse that and make 0000416 a duplicate of this bug - not sure.
Franz, you may as well close this one when you're satisfied things are done.
It's totally awesome to have this supported... I'm going to have to get it exposed to the scripter so I can start writing my classified pagination system.
Just tested out the inline frame support. It's very cool to be able to use any frame, btw.
I managed to use inline text frames to do basic classified-ad-style column layout :-) . It worked, though it took some interesting tweaking with leading etc.
I suspect that to be properly effective inline frames may need flow-around options, and probably dynamic line spacing adjustment. Getting inline objects to play well with surrounding text looks like it might be "interesting". It may also be necessary to be able to "shrink" a text frame hard around the text it contains, since the current behaviour makes it hard to get rid of the large amount of whitespace around inline text frames.
There's also no properties access to the inline objects and no way to select them by clicking on them instead of in them. Probably doesn't matter for now.
This is all VERY exciting. I'm just about done with exams, and I'll definitely have to look at what's involved in inserting inline frames via Python.
||Yes Craig, these inline frames are currently "hot stuff", they need some more fixing the next days. Will try to fix the Story Editor tonight.|
I figured I'd post some info here to help interested people know how to use Franz's latest magic.
To insert a frame inline, you must currently create a frame normally, then copy it, go into edit mode on the text frame and paste it into the text frame. Pretty much anything should work - those bullets and the calculator image in the screenshot are inline with the text :-)
Given that Franz only implemented the basic support for this stuff over the last couple of days, this is pretty awesome.
Attached is a screenshot of how things are working. Currently inline frames only work well if the inline frame size is <= the text height, and the inline frame width is narrower than the column width. Some layout tweaking may still be required to get the desired height etc, too. The big thing is that it works - hoooorray!
InlineObjects.pdf (121,284 bytes)
Uploaded two files which show some of the new features:
InlineObjDropCaps.png shows how to use inline Objects as DropCaps
InlineObjects.pdf is a nice example what you can do with textframes
as inline Objects, look at the gray square before the words "Duis viverra"
and view it with maximum magnification in Acrobat Reader.
Hello Franz! Like Craig says: hoooorray!
Very cool! Indeed!
Will it be possible to connect/lock/anchor objects outside a frame to the frame content?
I specifically think about marginal notes, since this feature is much required in exhibition catalogues, where a famous or significant quote is very often placed as a marginal note.
ID CS2 has finally introduced this feature.
|I could've sworn someone already filed an RFE for anchoring items to text. I can't seem to find it now though. Would you mind filing a separate bug for it?|
||awsome feature... would it feasable to enable also the inserting of groups of frames? (as an exemple if i want to create a quick and dirty formula.)|
||Groups of Objects can now used as inline Objects too.|
Inline3.pdf (84,923 bytes)
|2004-09-17 18:45||packetbell||New Issue|
|2004-09-22 22:06||packetbell||Note Added: 0002476|
|2004-09-24 17:51||deejay1||Note Added: 0002515|
|2004-09-24 19:27||packetbell||Note Added: 0002516|
|2004-09-24 23:23||louisdesjardins||Note Added: 0002519|
||Relationship added||duplicate of 0000416|
||Note Added: 0002539|
||Relationship added||related to 0001138|
|2004-09-27 14:24||cbradney||Relationship deleted||0000416|
|2004-09-27 14:25||cbradney||Relationship added||has duplicate 0000416|
||Status||new => assigned|
||Assigned To||=> fschmid|
||Note Added: 0005019|
||Note Added: 0005034|
||Relationship added||related to 0001155|
||Relationship added||related to 0001305|
|2005-06-15 10:52||fschmid||Note Added: 0005037|
||File Added: inline-frames.png|
||Note Added: 0005039|
||Relationship added||related to 0002098|
|2005-06-15 20:40||fschmid||File Added: InlineObjDropCaps.png|
|2005-06-15 20:41||fschmid||File Added: InlineObjects.pdf|
|2005-06-15 20:46||fschmid||Note Added: 0005049|
|2005-06-15 23:52||louisdesjardins||Note Added: 0005050|
|2005-08-04 00:35||christoph_s||Note Added: 0005882|
||Note Added: 0005886|
|2005-08-04 11:17||ale||Note Added: 0005895|
|2005-08-07 20:00||fschmid||Note Added: 0005922|
|2005-08-07 20:08||fschmid||File Added: Inline3.pdf|
||Relationship added||related to 0002395|
||Status||assigned => resolved|
||Fixed in Version||=> 1.3.2cvs|
||Resolution||open => fixed|
|2006-01-10 14:05||cbradney||Status||resolved => closed|
||Relationship added||has duplicate 0004831|