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2008-09-06 07:47
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i wonder if all those icons are needed in the status bar or if some of them would better fit in own toolbars which would then be optional. proposal: !zoom * create a zoom toolbar with the three icons (+ 1 -) for the beginners * let advanced user use shortcuts and hide the icons * leave only the text box with arrows in the status bar * change the increment of the arrows to the ones used also by the + - buttons (which are the same as the one applied by ctrl+mouseweel) * if there is a need for other steps, give an option to set the step in the preferences !page browsing * leave only the drop down list in the status bar * create a toolbar with |< < [page|v] > ] !preview mode * use a drop down button (the way it's done for the color management button) instead of a button and a select box !x/y position * use only one box for both coordinates * if the extra workload due to the need to update both coordinates for every mouse movement is noticeable, leave two boxes, but only one label * since the position is never shown when a status message appears, the position could be written in the "message/status" area of the status bar. voilà: just a few thoughts ps.: ... should i do it? |
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2008-09-06 12:13
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editing the screenshot in the gimp, my went to the gimp's status bar, and since gimp is well known for its progressive user interface (well, i'm on the side of the ones who likes it!), i've developed further my proposal (with a new screenshot: * on the left side unit and zoom like in the gimp * in the middle the message bar with the mouse position when nothing else is shown * the progress bar is shown over the whole message bar * on the right side first the page number, then layer and further general input and, at the end, all the small icons for specific tasks and now? what you think about it? |
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2008-09-06 13:42
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Any changes here require a rewrite of the whole of window management. No chance for this in 1.3.5. |
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i've never thought of a change before 1.3.5 is out! :-) |
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I think that bottom oneline 2 is perfect. I only suggest small improvement: - the position of cursor seems to not so good looking (comma between numbers disturbs me :-) - the better one is from bottom oneline - or my idea: X/Y Pos: 143.678 / 231.246 mm - short complete title - space between number and virgule is important because of readability - unit is only for control I will look forward to changes ;-) |
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I will give some other improvement. I think that would be great to change zoom step from +/- 1 to similar like has Inkscape. There is changing. When the number is small the step is 1 and is increasing with magnification. |
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1) what about just "x:12.34 y:43.21"? 2) pagenumber box needs to be larger so we can show page names / masterpage names in the future |
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Both improvement included. I create new layout. |
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2009-02-24 14:39
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I moved here from http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=9042 Well, some propositions. Lets think in "purpose" approach. I draw 1280 pixels wide canvas (resolution that most of LCDs are able to show). (http://bugs.scribus.net/file_download.php?file_id=4721&type=bug - sorry for ex?es space on picture) I arranged items on status bar by theirs purposes. There is lot space still. 1. Tools status area. Here I placed buttons/icons to indicate modes that are not indicated in any other way (by mouse shape, frame details or etc). Cause we have some space, may be it would be nice (in future) to place here some customizable buttons. 2. Zoom area. 3. Page navigation area. 4. Active layer indicator/selection. 5. View modes. 6. Coordinates (combined with the units selector). Progress indicator are not very helpful imo, it may be implemented in Quark style (where it appears only while saving). If any elements will be added/removed they should be arranged by purposes, imo. |
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Layout is very nice. I think the best of all suggestions. Some notes: - Progress indicator would be ok for me. - But there is one icon missing - Preview mode menu (Normal vision, Protanopia etc.) Proposition: What about add this menu hidden into icon of eye by small arrow? By the identical way like configure CMS which is next to it. |
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hi subeditor && mike, please consider that i plan to remove as many items as possible from the status (and eventually add some which are not there yet). we have to put in the status bar the things that everybody should always have on his monitor + some notices on the status. we have to think about what the function of a status bar is... please read my first comment: i plan to move several elements to their own toolbars. this will almost certainly happen with the zoom buttons (only a the text fields with arrows will survive) and the page browser (i plan to keep the text field (with or without drop down; with or without information on the page name and/or its master page). there will be a toolbar for the zoom and one for the page browser with -- at least -- the same elements as the ones which are currently in the status bar. also: there will be a bigger notification area which certainly be used by the progress bar. it's standard (when nothing special happens) content may be the coordinates of the mouse. or we could implement a similar hint system like in inkscape... finally, 1280 is a realistic width, but it should imo be the target width, not the minimal one. ah, and the status information on guides, undo and co: i'm not sure yet, which information is useful and how to show it... i think this proposition needs some more work... |
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As I already wrote main function of a status bar is to display statuses/switches that - should be visible all the time, are "OVERALL" (ie actual in all/most cases); - are not displayed in any other way (by mouse pointer shape, frame details etc). +1 for combine preview and preview mode buttons. +1 for compact zoom area - numeric indicator is enough. Minimal resolution is 1024, I think. |
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We need the status bar messages .. a lot messages are planned for future versions, |
- Anonymous
